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We have a very special musical guest joining us tonight. We're going to talk to him and find out about his journey there. We got so many great questions we're gonna ask, but we want to introduce to you joining us tonight, singer songwriter. Please give a round of applause to Jimmy Mollyer.

Ladies and gentlemen in studio. I know you probably can't hear it, but we don't. Play out with the audience, So welcome, Welcome to Jimmy. So nice to see you.

Thanks for coming to hang out, of course, but also if I turn your microphone on, there we go. Sorry, he did say thank you. He's got to be here, so got a lot of great questions here. I listened to the we're gonna talk about your new song, which fantastic, by the way, I just want to say, off the bat, I think it was.

Now I will say I'm not an overly diehard country lover, but there are certain songs that do have They do kind of hit me in the right place there, you know, And I think this particular one kind of had a little bit more of a I could see the story behind it, which I like. I like the adventure of trying to understand where it's going. So we're gonna dive into that and more. But how we traditionally do this, since you are new to the show, what we like to do is we ask our guest to share a little bit.

You don't have this site to share about your music journey, just a little bit about background. Who is Jimmy, anything you want to share to help us get to know you a little bit, and then we're going to pick apart your your music career and things of that nature. So who is Jimmy, Mollie, who can you tell us about yourself? Oh?

Okay, great, Yeah, yeah, I'm Jimmy and I I'm six years old. I was born in little island called Galveston Island in Galveston On, Galveston, Texas. A lot of people know about it. It's pretty pretty tiny, yeah, pretty small, and great upbringing.

Came from a fairly large family. Then I went off to the University of Texas, started a business career, went into insurance. I did it for gosh thirty years. Wow.

And I I played guitar as a kid, and you know, it's when I first started learning. It was probably I actually learned probably at the age of thirteen. And I actually had my first guitar teacher was a nun Catholic school taught me how to play guitar. Wow.

That was kind of interesting, you know, it was awesome. I mean, I did any different, so it was kind of fun. And but once I got into college, I kind of put the guitar down, and then about sixteen years or so ago, I picked it back up, started taking lessons again and playing, and after a couple of years started uh just randomly writing songs and wrote them for a quite a while, just for no other reason, just to write them and put music to it. And a little over a year ago I kind of thought, well, you know what am I going to do with these?

I would love for somebody to sing them. I'd love to sell them, you know whatever. Started looking into it, and I kind of just decided, you know what, I think I'm going to release these on my own, you know, with me actually singing. And so a little over a year ago I started releasing songs on Spotify, YouTube, Amazon and all the sites.

That's a pretty pretty warm reception, and so I just, you know, kept going and until I don't get anymore I guess, you know, reception. So it's been pretty cool. You're you're kind of like reminding me of the regular average day Eddy Money there, you know, kind of a little one sided career, not expecting to hit the music scene, and all of a sudden in the latter portion of your career, music just kind of hits. You you know.

I mean, nobody knew any money was in the New York Police officer for what twenty some years, and then all of a sudden he hits it big and that's really all that he's known for now. So I love that, and I also love the fact that and pardon me and help me this to sound insulting any way, like I love the fact even at your age where you're taking that journey there, you know, it kind of breaks the barriers of anybody can do anything at any age, right, there's no really restrictions. So I personally think that's fantastic. I think it's a great testament because especially following your passion.

You know, we've had we've had other artists, we've had groups on the show. One in particular, I could think of who you know, still a lot younger, but same kind of rare quality where it's like, you know, something I enjoy, something I love, I'm really trying to pursue it, you know, whether or not I get big. And they're kind of a small time band. They're starting to make it big.

But it's just the concept of not just chasing, chasing the dream, of not worrying about the success necessarily, but trying to find the passion there. You know, we've had the discussions too, which we're gonna get in deeper because I want to get your thoughts as well. But how the music industry is today where a lot of people are trying to get overnight success. They're not so much worried about the quality of their song content they're putting out.

They're just trying to put whatever just to say I want to make it big. So I think that's that's really fantastic. And my first big question was which kind of touched on it? But as I was reading through your information looking at this, and this is one thing that stuck out to me where you mentioned too how you know about it?

Stated there, you know you weren't thinking about singing it. You just wanted to do the writing you want. At what point did you discover that, you know what, maybe I could sing this or I wanted to Did you have that what led you to decide to sing then your songs as you wrote. Them, Well, it first came that Okay, I've got to get it out there, and I didn't know of any way to get it out there and get heard other than it being song, right, and so rather than kind and just sending it off to places and trying to find other artists who would sing my songs, I decided, well, okay, I'll put it out there sort of just you know, throw it out into the wind with me just singing it.

Probably you know, at least they'll maybe they'll hear the story because most of my most of my songs are like stories. They're basically stories of my life, you know. And so it kind of got to be, well, who better to tell the story than me? You know, you know, And and there's a certain you know, tongue that you know in a melody and everything that goes with it, Well, it's easy to part you put your heart into it when it's your story.

There's something to that, you know. You know, I know in a song where I want to want it to sound a certain way, because that's the intent of what I want listeners, you know, to to hear and to feel more important, to feel, you know, if I can get somebody to feel a certain way and to feel the way this song is into to make you feel, that's a win. Yeah, you know. Sure.

So so I did the first one, which my first song was called Hey Hey, and it was about my journey to sobriety and it's sung in a ballroom, sing a long kind of song. Yeah. For me, sobriety is a joyous, incredible, life altering thing after I drank for forty plus years and it's so wonderful. But I felt I could give it that passion that it needed to have to get that message across.

And that's what's starting. Yeah, it's kind of like a same thing. You know. It's sort of like if you if you wrote your own movie or you had a script, you know.

I mean, obviously actors play the part, but sometimes you feel like, and I don't. I always wonder like, for directors, how do you get your message there? Because you know the story you're trying to tell and there are a lot of gifted actors you know that can pull it off, let's be honest, but just trying to really you know, communicate that between director actor, trying to get that out. Same thing with music too, you know, I've I've done sort of the similar thing.

I wrote amateur songs there, you know, I did that through the bands I played in, and it's like, you know, trying to describe how I want the sound and a lot of times the other player guys are like, how do you want this sound? I'm like, well, I can hear. I'm trying to break it down for you, but it's it's I can't really get you in my head kind of thing, like unless you're in my head, you kind of know. So, but it's that's really great.

And I will say, you know, you have the best way when I listened to the song was It's given me that Johnny Cash kind of smooth kind of vibe to it. You know, you have that nice, dark, husky kind of okie sound to it, you know, and it was really catchy. And that's the thing. The story of it just kind of like kept me captivated through it because I'm like, I'm walking that journey with you, like I'm almost living that experience.

So and I'm sure that's the goal and hopefully others too. Now I haven't heard. Hey, I'm have to listen to it because I'd love to hear about your journey to sobriety. It is a wonderful thing.

Congratulations on that too. That's that's huge. You know a lot of people don't get as fortunate, but it's nice to have that where you have those real moments, you know, and people can connect with you because you could say, hey, I didn't make this up, this was really me. This is a story.

It's like reading your diary. Basically. This is between the lines behind closed doors, which hopefully the audiences generate too and they like I'm sure, but just the concept that you know, you went out there, you're taking a chance, you know, I mean again, you're familiar with the music there, you had it kind of sort of in the background, but coming in the stage and saying, you know what, probably don't have many perks left, right, I mean, as you get older, I don't know, I won't know probably for a little while yet, but I'm sure you know you say, you know what, what's what's the harm in that? You know, you only live once, so you know, getting out there and you know, for just just starting recently, I mean again, it's it's incredible.

What has that thrill been for you since you start? Now you're you're seeing some growth to it. How does that make you feel like in the sense of accomplishment for the for this lack of better term of you know, at least you know, maybe you're not sure if it's gonna happen. But how do you feel now that you're seeing like it's out there, these songs are there and you're getting their responses back.

What does that signify to you? Well, it's been overwhelming, humbling, you know. Uh, and obviously kind of affirmed what I what I wanted to do. You know.

When I first released say Hey It, it actually was one of the most viral songs on Spotify according to Spotify. I don't know what that means exactly, you know, but win, Yeah, yeah, I think they're win. They say it okay. So and I went out there kind of with a bang.

Not only did I my first song was not just you know, okay one I wrote. It was one that was deeply personal to me about my sobriety and in hopes of encouraging people there is joy and sobriety. It's actually a whole lot of fun. And that was along with the message that it took me forty years to get there.

Yeah, you know, but once I got there, it was a lot of fun. So it's and it's a very you know, fun song to do. And it was fun because it was the first time that I had to pick out other instruments to be you know, I was just being a guitar. You know.

That was so much fun to create that part because I knew, no, I want it fast here, I want it loud here. And then I wanted this emote. I want to you know, emote this emotion here. And so it was such an incredible experience I thought, okay, you know, when I released it, I thought, okay, I did it.

Not only have I thrown myself out there with words that I've written and my own voice, but a very deep, deep issue for me, and it was so well received and shot up and did very well. I was like, wow, okay, maybe maybe I have something maybe you know, you know. And so I've just continued to do that, and each one of my songs has a different sort of meaning, almost all about my life, different stuff about my life, but somewhere in there at intertwines with my life. And the reception has been you know, yeah, I wouldn't say that I'm it's gone viral, and since I'm not getting like a million streams and you know, all that, not quite you know, so it's definitely not any kind of overnight, you know, two months success, sure, but it's enough it's enough for me.

I have done it. I've put it out there, you know, and we'll see where the where it goes from there. Yeah. No, it's a great positive reflection on that again, because that's your heart, that's your work that you put into it, that's what you you know.

You're striving for. Now, let me ask this, and again this is more of a curiosity question given that I'm a bit of a younger man, so I'm not quite as far in the journey as you. But do you find since you have equated your life experiences with your music, do you find that the well is overflowing where you have plenty of stuff to work with that you know you're not gonna have constant writer's block you have you know, I can pull this from my life. I could write a song here, I could pull this.

Do you kind of find that flow when you do your creative process? Oh? Absolutely, yeah. I mean I've got probably twenty five to thirty songs I've written.

Wow, Okay, where there is? So I've already got a pretty deep well. But it's it's I haven't even touched the bottom. Because you know, I'm sixteen years old and I've and I joke often joked that my my life is not boring.

You could Netflix could get ten seasons out of my life easily, awesome, you know. Uh, And and not I've not had a boring year in my life, and so I've got a whole lot of material I still have left untapped. That that's really that's impressive, I mean, And again, I like the zeal there because you know, you're not looking at it where you know, maybe some would say you shouldn't be this exuberant, you shouldn't be this excited. You're you're coming into the latter years.

You know, you shouldn't have this energy like you almost would have an energy if somebody like me who's younger, with that enthusiasm. And you know, but it's and again the concept core with when when writing the music, and I've always been a huge fan of it, especially like I love to listen to scores from films. You know, obviously makes it. It tells the story.

It captivates the audience more so probably than you know, the scenes. There's some movie areas where the music actually makes the scene because it kind of grips you down deep. So when you do that for your material, and again, the personal connections. And I think I think it's brilliant too, the fact you singing it because who else, you know, who better and you know, not that somebody else couldn't probably sing it and do it justice.

But at the same time, it's it's a deeper reach to the soul where you can connect with somebody too. And again let's just say use the example of hey, hey, with you know the sobriety too, like maybe somebody hears that message and when you say, you know that is based on my life, Oh, you know, this is a connecting moment. This is it's possible, it can happen. It's uplifting.

So I think that's that's really incredible there. But just the I don't even know how to put that in the phrase there, just the uniqueness that you put into it. Like I read through some of the lyrics there, I heard the song like again, I was playing at looping it a few times because again, it's it's not overly, it's not very drowned out. It's not like super scory over the top.

You know, you're not playing a forty piece BA you know. But it has a nice it has a nice tone, a nice sound to it. You know, and again it's kind of like it's there's stuff to interpret those things, not like the music we have today we're younger, you know, like, well, I don't myself count as music, but some of these these bands that you can't understand the lick of the worst they're saying. So I like the quality of that now when talking about bridging the gap here and again, this is where I wanted to just get your thoughts on this too.

When you obviously, you know, again not super big time, but obviously I'm sure you follow what's going on musically too. When you look at the music world today compared to say, maybe when you were a lot younger, maybe most of our age, so you know, I'm in my mid thirties, you know, but uh, you know, compared to the contrast, what is what is some major things? Like I know there's going to be pros and cons to everything, but like if you could go back and tell yourself when you were younger too about writing music, if you had the chance or there any is there anything you would say, hey, look, this is what's coming up down in the future, the things to consider. Would it change your approach your style in any way?

You'd ever get any thought to those kind of things. I mean, I guess if I had started earlier, when I was younger, in my twenties and thirties, I think my songs would have been vastly different, to be honest, and they probably would have been more mainstream. And I don't consider my my song's mainstream whatsoever. I think there's probably a niche market for it, but I don't think that there's a lot of it out there.

So I think there's room for it out there in the music world, you know, for people that want a song that reminds them of a memory, of a feeling, of a something, you know, that tells the story. Yeah, And at the end of the day, that's all I'm really doing is telling stories one way or the other, you know. And so I don't think I would have had the experience or the passion when I was younger. So I think I'm doing it at the right time in my life where it means something, and I think that meaning comes out in my lyrics, you know.

I think it's that experience that I would not have had as a younger person. In no way regret not doing it earlier. And if I had done it, earlier, it wouldn't be what it is now. So whether that turns out to be good or popular or not, I don't know, but it's more true, you know.

Sure, No, that's that's a great way to look at I mean, and you know, same thing where and you can always Again, I'm a big advocate for at least you know you tried it. You know. I'm a big fan of the old saying it's better try and fail than never try it all. So, no matter what stage of life you're at, you know, and I've always had issues where I've had other, you know, groups people I play with, all younger guys, like you have to really hone your craft.

You have to love what you're doing there for that, you can't expect the reward to happen overnight. I had guys that play with It's like, I want to be in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. Overnight. Doesn't happen like that.

Nobody's going to be like the Beatles is gonna hit big or the Stunt. Could it happen? Sure, But if you're shooting for that bigger goal, you kind of lose sight of the of everything that kind of happens in the process, so you know, and and who knows. You know, even at this stage you might say, well, maybe it'll turn into something maybe.

You know, obviously it's got some would I make it big? Who's to say anymore? I mean the game, the game has changed so much, the dynamics of the music industry has changed. So I like to say, and I'm always a big advocate, same thing with sports.

I like the root for the older guys. I say, you know what, everybody should have a fair chance to at least get an opportunity to, if nothing else, get something heard out there. And you know, and who knows, maybe maybe your song will get picked up for you know, television or maybe a film. Perhaps you know, I don't know if that's ever been a thought in your mind, but it's always you know, it could happen.

But I think I like that. I like the notion there. You know, you're passionate about it. You you know, you can't look backwards, you know, obviously, you know, move through life.

I think we all have that moment we look back and say, maybe I could have done something different, you wouldn't be probably where you are today. I totally agree with you there, But just the journey itself. I mean, I think that's the most and I I would ask ye too, just if you could, even if these songs didn't go anywhere, would you even regret the journey? Because if you love music so much, right, it wouldn't change your outlook, right, you wouldn't.

You wouldn't trade it away. I mean, it's great if something comes back, but even if it did, you would still love it. Right, Oh? Absolutely.

I Mean the whole point was for me to to do it, you know, a couple of reason me, just at this age or stage of life or whatever, to do something that it has been a dream of mine, you know, back in the in the back of my mind to do I've had other you know, big successes in business and and other things, but this was this is a passion, you know. And it's like and the things I wanted to say and the way I wanted to say it and the way I wanted it to sound is what I'm putting out there. And so yeah, it'd be great. It's if it's as success.

I will never hope to never get to the point where it's like, hey, okay, this really works. But if you do it this way, this is what people really like. Now, I won't be that person that's not you know, I'll put it out there. I hope obviously that other people relate to it, that it touches people on a deeper level than maybe they get in other parts of music, and that against popular.

But at no point do I think I would ever go, Okay, well, maybe if you sing about this, you know, people want to hear about you know this, you know, then go sing about this, you know, or make it sound like this. That's not me. That's not my sound, that's not what I write about. So if it goes nowhere, it goes nowhere.

But as the old saying, I did it my way, you know so, and I'll be very happy. With that that I was going to ask you that, you know, when you we've had several discussions I've been on involved in other topics. We talked about this, but in your opinion looking at it, when you see these these younger groups, these younger artists who you know, they have potential, they have great quality stuff, when you see them make those sacrifices where they're sacrificing the quality just because the record label signed them. But now you know they record abel signs you will you sign over controlling rights and you sign over you know that you got to read the fine print of you sign the label, they own your your album.

You don't necessarily get control with the music that technically is yours. But when you see that kind of thing, you know, and again like what do you how do you how do you feel like as a true artist for that one when you see these these young guys they sacrifice, How does that make you feel? What is it? What do you?

What do you think when you see these kind of things, Like, again, they have so much potential talent, but they're selling out everything just for a chance to make it big. Yeah, I think I think you, without sounding too extatuative, you lose your soul, You lose who you are, you know, because I think as a musician, I think most of us, you know what We'll tell you, what we do is our passionate, is who we are, and if we start doing that to please other people, then we've totally literally lost ourselves, you know. And so I luckily I have a business background, so I would never sign away the rights of my song. I don't care what you offered me, but copyrights will be my copyrights will be my copig.

I will own my song. So you know, that probably will limit any any you know, a lot of potential, you know, people that want to recorded or whatever. But it's just but that is far more important to me than the other. You know, if I go down and smoke, but I but I keep my songs, okay, so be it, you know.

But you know, and I would imagine being younger. If you're younger and you just want to make it big, you're gonna make those personal deep sacrifices to get there. Well, you know what, I don't have to do that, you know, so I'm not gonna you know, that's a luxury. Yeah, that's for sure.

I mean, and again it goes back to that's a plus column for being at the stage of life there too, and I also think that at the stage of life where you're at, that's also seasoned experience, where you know, and again and then maybe perhaps in being in the business world too, recognizing too that there's so much more. I feel like to a lot of these younger artists, you don't they don't read the fine print. They always they don't sign the contract unless you're reading your fine print. There's you know, it's kind of like the risk reward factor.

They get the reward up front, but you're not asking them, well, what's it going to cost me? Because you know, there's that old saying nothing in life is free. So you know, maybe you get that recording contract, maybe you get that retainer, that money up front to start recording working in the studio, but they're not giving it to you for nothing. What is it that they want that you're not reading the fine print?

So before you put your John Hancock there, make sure you know you read it through because they've seen it often. You know, the media there there's so many art fights over controlling rights for songs. A lot of guys, a lot of these popular artists are selling their their entire catalogs just because they want to make the money. Now, you know, and I'm thinking of myself, boy, like like famous artists like have like three hundred songs that you know they were all for decades that was how do you just like, for lack of term, I hate to say, like throwing it away, how do you just like relinquish that?

And you know it's like that was your entire like life's work. You know, that was something that you you know, you put your blood, sweat and tears into and now, yeah, just because there's a few more dollars you give it, but is it really worth it? And I agree with you. I think you know, you lose your soul there.

But I think it's maybe the generation of it too. I think it's the times you obviously everything is digital now. You know, live performances are not like they were, you know, popular way back in the heyday. You know, obviously there's some live show performances, but most people now get everything digitally.

They download songs. So most artists work in the studio now. They don't go out touring or traveling as much as you know, thirty years ago, that was a huge thing way back when. But I think you're in a nice little, unique little cubicle, if you will, if you kind of get the best of that world where you don't have the pressures there.

You know, you don't have to deal with cameras at your door. You know, you can live your own life. You're not exactly under the microscope too, which has got to be nice as well. But you still enjoying the prospect of what do they say, the minor celebrity idea like you're not necessarily selling platinum albums, but you're at least getting out there too.

So I and I think it going back to again, your song's running about journey and stuff. It's a great market that I think is kind of is untapped. There's not a lot of people that are going that route. They're trying to find creative ways to be expressive, and what better way to express it?

When you write a song about your life, and who's to say it's not going to be exciting. Everybody says, well, I don't know if my life's interesting enough to write about. I'm sure authors have the same problem with their autobiographies and books. I can see where that happens, you know, even for us doing songs.

You know, I sat there like I must have crumpled how many pages trying to be like, I know what I want to say, but I can't get it out, and it's kind of like stuck in my head, and then trying to ask the others to do it. It's like, how do we do all this stuff? But it's really it's interesting when you talk about that process there now and when I mentioned it earlier though, if there was an opportunity, let's just say, for example, if you were approached and someone said, you know, Jimmy, we we liked these songs, this one particular song. We have a TV show idea, we have a small maybe movie part there.

What would that be something you would consider in negotiation with. I mean again, there's also the creative issue too, But if that wasn't offer to you, would you consider at least the process of potentially entertaining doing something like that. Yeah, I would definitely, depending on what they wanted to do with this song, you know. For example, if they wanted to take my song and put it into a I don't know, let's say a New Age movie or something, so they wanted to totally change the melody, you know, and put some phonics in all electric, you know, and and really change it up, I would probably honestly say no, thank.

You, No makes sense. Yeah, if they wanted to keep it for the purpose that the song was written, it fit into the movie, you know, and it was a good movie. But absolutely, yeah, of course, you know, you know, and I hope I would stay away from well, I just got to do this so I get it out there, you know, because I think at the end of the day, I'll know that I'd be able to live with myself number one, and it wouldn't. I don't think it would go over very well, you know, I have I have a pretty good faith in that it'll end up in the right place at the right time.

And yeah, I could definitely see some of my songs being in a movie. You know. I'ven't gotten that response a lot, like, oh my god, this would be so great in this kind of movie, you know. And I'm like, I would absolutely love for one of my songs to make it into a movie, you know, as long as they didn't alter it and change it in you know whatever too.

Much, fair point, you know. And and again that's that's where that that you careful with the creative side of you know. And like again a lot of young young artists jumping at it saying, you know what, yes, it's a movie or TV opportunity, but what do they want to do with it? Like just as an example, because I notic was talked about and this is one of the songs that they don't touch it when they when they did the Deadpool Wolverine film, and I know Yan Reynolds came out and said we had to go to Madonna.

We went to her. House because she never relinquishes the rights to her songs. But he's like, I wanted like a prayer in the movie. But like we had to jump through hoops to even take the meeting with her to ask her can we use the song in the film and how can we?

Which it was great because they said we she was working through the whole process like they wanted. They didn't want to dishonor her with the song. It's a great song. They said, you know, how can we We want to tweak it, but we don't want to ruin it.

And they asked her. They had her involved in the filming process, like where it fits. So it was kind of nice and it worked out well. I think it fit the film nicely.

But you don't always get that. Again, obviously at her level of celebrity, that's clearly you have to bend and really jump through hoops to to acquire the rights, which they said. She was gracious enough she allowed that to happen, but you know, she wanted to be formally asked, which Ryan Reynold said, Yeah, I'll come to your house you offer me to do it. I would love to use the film you know, what's it going to cost me?

I we be happy to do it. So those of lengths to it, you know, it makes sense. But it's kind of a nice idea. That's a nice frame of when you know the quality is so good and someone says, yeah, this would fit perfectly in this film.

Maybe if it's just a small little scene or a little maybe you know, I was, I was even thinking the way I heard a song like I can even hear some of your stuff in like children's programming like these little you know, just because of the story aspect, maybe there's a background kind of like one of those storybooks come to life kind of thing, or audio books kind of a thing. And again there I would imagine there's not much change there. But you know, as long as you're open minded, which I'm sure you are, what would be the sky's the limit for you as far as ultimate accomplishment if you had to put a cap on it. You know, again, I'm being as laid back as you are, though, But if you had to say I have an ultimate goal, what would that be.

An open goal for what I want to accomplished with my music? Use it? Yep? Yeah, Oh, I mean I absolutely would love to.

I'd love to perform, you know, at some point in time in concert, you know, and and get a record deal, no doubt, that's my ultimate goal. But but I don't I wouldn't do it at the cost of Okay, that's great, but we're totally trashing the melody in this song and we're gonna we want you to do it this way. I would I would not do that. Well, I don't think I could do that because when you write the song, at least for me, when I write the song, a lot of them are so deeply personal that it'd be like changing my memory, you know, because I know what I I know what I hope it evokes, you know, like Uncle.

My last release, Uncle is very much a true story about my childhood experience with an old, you know, eccentric uncle of mine. But my hope is that other people will have the same, similar memory of somebody in their family. That meant they had this distinct memory they could connect to that, right, you know, from six years old. I remember this one.

I was six years old. It was that important to me. That's what was So you know that, and you're hoping someone else feels like, oh, that reminds me of my uncle or my grandparents rapper. Yeah, so I and I think that's a fair.

That's a fair, says and again, you're staying true to yourself. You know you're not And I again I love that. I say it's old school of the whole. You know, you're staying true to the art form itself.

You're not just going to sell out, because if you did that, I'm sure you probably would get signed overnight. That's that's obviously a huge draw there. But you you're not willing to throw away, you know, making them change your entire image and tire everything. You're not willing to sacrifice that just to be famous there, which again is such a rare quality because you know, again a lot of the younger generation too, that's it's instant famoustant success.

They see all these big timers doing it. They they want to follow that model. And again there's nothing wrong with that, but there's got to be some understanding reality. And again, if you are not true to yourself, you know, how do you go about even trying to make it there?

Because the whole idea is for you if you want to be unique, I don't. I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't want to be any other artists. I want to mimic. I don't want to be another Drake.

I don't want to min I want to be me. I want to be myself, you know, I want to If people are gonna like the music, they're gonna like. It because it's mine, not because I copied. You know, any of these bands up there that did all this stuff, And again it's no disrespect to them, but it's it's just that concept of uh staying truly unique, true to yourself there, which is fantastic.

So that that that's truly wonderful. What we do want to do here is we are gonna have to reset our meeting time. We're gonna take a break. We do have your song cute up.

We're gonna play it for you guys listening, because we want to hear what we're talking about, to give you a little taste that Jimmy here, what he's got going on. We're gonna we're gonna talk more about some of the other stuff. Maybe before the night's over. We can see if he'll clue us in any projects he's got under the under the blanket, if he's willing to share to spill the tea.

That's the saying. We'll ask him that. We'll talk a little bit more and get in depth of that stuff as well. But we're gonna pause here.

I will be in touch with you off the air. There. We're gonna see if I can get the meeting restarted. If we need a new link.

I'm not sure if that one will work. We'll coordinate. We'll get you back in here. We have to wait about a few minutes because the free program online lets us do so much sadly, so we're still trying to work it out, but I appreciate it.

Patience there, we'll get you in so but this is a great chance for you guys to have a quick break. But listen to this. We're gonna play this track first. The song is called Uncle, written by Jimmy Mallier, a personal experience from him, a childhood memory that he put a lot of time, a lot of effort into it.

Again, it's incredible. I listened to it multiple times today. It just is very short, sweet to the point. It's got a nice melody, and I think you guys are really going to enjoy it.

So we'll be right back. I'm gonna close off the meeting here, Jimmy, we'll get you back. Stick around, don't go far. But for you guys listening, check it out.

This is gonna be uncle. We'll talk more about that with Jimmy Malier when we come back after this. Enjoy that for a short commercial break, we'll talk more at the What's Up Bro Podcast show. You're number one true home for entertainment.

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Don't go away? Hey, uncle, where are we going? The Broadway? The bank, called the bar, through the driving toil along, fo do groving.

Green means going and red means stop the call. I'll tell you when from me other seat at home, Janini you me my tream well you the homo. To everyone similly. Uncle was all that I knew.

He was loud, He was me and fun any love me? That's much I know? Saturday? Where are day alone?

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Car, No luck and no buckles of Bubo nine. The stars the show, Same old, same old day, same old jump. Well I was. He he was mine hard day and out of a spot.

Well, I had my way. You to everyone simply on the goal. All that I knew he was loud, he was mean and fun, and he loved me this much. I know.

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We are hanging out and talking to Fulcan country singer Jimmy and we actually did a first here on the show. We played your song not once, but twice, because it's always better when you play it a second time, because you always can get something. I gotta say, I'm just sitting here just you know, bob into it. It's it's so nice though, I mean really again, I don't mean it to sound degrading there.

It's simplistic enough, but you can follow along where I don't know, and I feel like I feel like I'm in the car with you, Like I feel like I'm taking that journey. Like when you're painting. I had my eyes closed. I'm like, I'm going back to when I'm a kid thinking about car trips I've took to my parents, and I'm like, this is kind of like I could imagine me if I were at your point.

This is a song I would write. Now, my car trips were probably a lot different, but you kind of get the idea the similarities there, but that that's honestly, that's that's fantastic when this song kind of sparked for you, when this kind of became you know, when you knew you wanted to write this, You have the material. Let's say, you kind of knew your life story already. You know, what was it like when you were crafting it and putting it together?

You know again, because you're kind of reliving that experience and you're trying to put it down a paper into words, How did that feel when you actually got the process going, even before like the rough draft, before the final result. Well, you know they usually when I start a song, it's it's a line or a thought or a memory. You know, it's just that one thing and I and I sit down there and expand sort of from there. And so with uncle, who's the real person, it started with just all these very vivid, vivid memories of just one you know, we did it a bunch of times, but a Saturday, a typical Saturday morning with my uncle and uh and and it's it's just replaying a memory.

But to be able to replay that memory and hopefully hopefully build a visual for the listener. You know, it is so at least I hope I did you know that? Yes, I take you along in the car with me, and you can visualize, you know, going into a barroom, you know, with my uncle or not, you know, and all that, and and I find it a really funny, humorous story that as an adult you look back at your childhood some of your best childhood memories and it includes just hanging out with your uncle on a Saturday and going around town and ending up in a bar. You know, that in and of itself is kind of funny.

Oh, you know, there's a whole comedy show right there for that just alone. You can probably right forget about Andy Griffith. This is like the more modern, you know, different first, you know. But it's fun.

It's fun though, because you know, like I said, when I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is where I can picture I can really put myself in that car seat there, Like I feel like I can hear the trees rustling when we're driving, and I mean literally it's just so soothing when honestly, I could probably tell you I might even put this on when I go to bed tonight and just listen to it because it's got me like so it's so relaxing and so comforting that it's almost like that that comfort like you know little kids have, like their their safety blanket or their stuff the animal. It kind of feels like you're wrapped in that, you know. And I've had nostalgic moments of memories and you know, I wish I could. I you know, I should have my own theme music, but I don't.

But maybe one day that could be a retirement plan for me. But I just I just love the idea of that. And you know, we'll be curious. I'm gonna we're gonna track down your other song.

I definitely want to hear we are going to I did share this too, And again, of course we always as long as you're okay to we we have the NP three or m P four. We do like to play it on our shows occasionally, just to remind folks of the pokes that we have here. So as long as you have no objections there, of course, we always like to have permission for that too. Of course, Oh absolutely, I'd really appreciate that.

I'd love that. No, no, we we we always love we had We're getting quite a collection of every It's kind of like our our trade symbol. Whenever we have a music guest on, we ask them for a clip or two or a song or two so that we can you know, put it through and you know it just and for the audience, it's just something that captivates and reminds them of, you know, those moments there. Of course, obviously we will definitely welcome you to come back at some point.

We love to hear your journey further too. But I want to I want to kind of come in toward the latter part or the end here where I want to see and I'm gonna I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play the Harvey Levin moment. I'm gonna be the media detective.

Come in and now again, we're not obligated to answer that. Is there anything can we can we peek behind your music factory? What have you got coming up next that you haven't released yet that you can tell us? Is there anything that you got cooking that you can share the spill the tea with us?

I don't want to, I'm gonna be paparazzi here. I want to see if I can push it? Can I can I get it out of you know what are you willing to share? Come on, give it to us right here, right now, exclusive right here.

I haven't told I haven't released it yet, nor is done. I don't think they've even done the press release or anything. But it's coming up day after Thanksgiving, my first and probably will only be my only Christmas song. H Okay.

He's got to come out Friday after Thanksgiving. And it's called All I Want for Christmas, not an original title, but the theme is different, okay, and for the first time, I kind of did a throwback again. It's kind of a child memory, you know, being crossby Frank Sinapstein, all those great you know musicians that played that holiday music when I was a kid, So it's it's kind of a tip of the hat to them. But you know, I can never do anything without having that folky sort of country sound to it.

But it's I think has a unique blend of both in it. Okay, and uh, I like the lyrics. I think it's catchy. Uh.

We've got a lot more mix in it, you know, uh, and instruments in it with jingle bells and all that kind of stuff. But I think I think it's pretty cool. It's just a fun, you know, happy song, you know, and uh, I don't think they've been a whole lot of new Christmas songs released in the last couple of decades. Yeah, so I'm hoping maybe people find this to be nostalgic and fun at the same time.

Well, let me just say this, and the audience knows too. We've been sharing this and now we are coming into our end of the Weekend's the end of November already, if we can believe it. But our big draw we love is we have Christmas music. We do have real to free that we do share.

We love. There are great tracks, a lot of great artists that have shared this which we subscribe to, and we're able to get their tracks to It's an absolute favorite. That seems to be like our biggest draw of the year is the holiday season. So I will say right off the bat, since this is an exclusive there, I'm really excited to track it down to hear it because we got the Christmas music rolling in the house like all the time.

So if this is a Jimmy Molly, if this is an original coming in like and I love the idea. It's based off of classics it's based off of but yet it's still you. Now, how how close to home is this based? Because your songs are based off of personal experiences.

Just have a really good personal Christmas moment from when. You were growing up. I shouldn't be surprised, but you know, I was just wanted to do. Yeah.

I don't want to assume though. I want to make sure we're you know, clear but. Pretty with me. It's actually it's called all I want for Christmas is my girls.

My my girls. I mean my three daughters. I have three daughters that are that are a and uh so it's all about you know, you can take all the rest of Christmas right away from me, but just give me. That Wow that that's again.

I gotta say, I will be disappointed if you if any of these tracks don't end up in a feature film or some maybe a home or a Christmas special. Maybe the Christmas song could be there. I mean, yeah, that's you know, you see some of these classic movies and obviously there's original music. Why can't your song be there?

And again, how many movies are about family, all about the holidays. So I'm definitely gonna write a letter to the editor for that one, but we'll see how that got. But that that's that's awesome. I mean again, it's it's not shocking too because we're coming into the holiday season.

But so to be fair than to ask how long have you had this on? Have you had this in the works for a little bit, or how long have it taken you to get this? Okay, so just the actual release. Of part I've probably wrote it a year and a half ago.

And I mean, you can't release it in July, right, I mean there is that part of marketing you do have to adhere too, that's true, but that's a that's about the only element that I have. So I've had it and I spent a lot of time on the instruments and the mixing and everything else because I really wanted a certain sound to it, sure, and that throwback sound, and I think I accomplished it with the great health, great guys, and so we waited until Christmas. Yeah, well you know, I'm actually again it makes sense for that too, and I think it's it's it's great and again, build up the hype and obviously you know, we we'll mention that too, like everybody's gonna go Actually technically by the time everybody hears this, it's probably released today anyway, because it's gonna be Friday, and so it's out there now. It's out there now, and again we will before we close, and I too, we're gonna have you.

We do have some things we can share, but we want you to tell everybody where we can find your music. We always like to have the artists do that at the very end. But I did want to ask this earlier. But when you have a creative process, when you work with other instruments, I'm assuming you probably have worked with other musicians before.

What is that quality, like, whether it's a Christmas song or just a regular song, how do you find that just the camaraderie even the creative process when you work with other musicians and your process of you knowing what you want, especially if it's your song, how do you find the working relationship when you try to get others to see your vision. That's a great question because I went through when I first started this as a just a total novice. Still am you know? I went to recording studios.

That's what you do. You go to write, you're paying your prime, you go to a recording studio. So I went to a couple and one of them did a fairly good job, but I felt like I couldn't get my message across about the sound that I wanted, and so I ended up working actually with my son in law who's incredible at mixing, and the guy that I write music with, who's an incredible musician, play so many different instruments. I could communicate with him like, no, but this is the sound that I want.

And it's even down to this is the type of piano I want, like for hey, hey, it is a stand up bar piano. It wouldn't be that song without it. Sure, you know, an uncle, there's a mandolin in it is the main instrument that you hear in that that's a very unique sound to it. But I wanted to sort of throw back ring instrument, not just my guitar.

Sure, And so it's been it's been extremely important and to work with people that that get my sound or get what I'm trying to communicate, you know, because yes, the words do one thing, but of course without the melody and the right instruments it can you don't keep the message across. Yep, yep. It's it's so often and I've I've heard a lot of songs where again I always say it was so close, it had potential, but the music just just didn't fit. The words were good, but it was the wrong backdrop.

It was the wrong sound, you know. And again it's not to be critical, but it's just from a from a listener who's supposed to be, you know, join that, and you're writing it to us as the audience listening. I'm like, I just I just feel like it could have went a different way. You know.

Musically, the lyrics are fine, but they just don't seem It's almost like having a jazz song with a rock and roll it just doesn't kind of clashes there. So and again I really say that that's the part I loved about Uncle is the mandolin part. You can hear it in there, like that's the And again, I've played for a while and I'm used to. I mean, I'm a drummer by nature, but I still understand and appreciate the string, so I can hear the play and it's I think that's what really makes it too.

It's the light plucking of it. It's not you know, it's not something overdrawn like guitar could work, but you need just that nice, little, that little light feel, but the sound is still good, so, you know, very important. And I think I was always a big believer. I talked to a lot of musicians when I started playing, guys who've done it.

I'm like, you know, trying to get all kinds of ideas. The one thing I always took into when they say is less is more, so you know, you don't necessarily have to go big and loud and and crazy and all these things. Sometimes the less you and I know a lot of guys will say, well, yeah, but I want all this stuff. When I get in the studio, I want, you know, every possible sound at the soundboard.

And I mixed it with engineers. I've done that kind of stuff, like I, you know, amateurist, but I did it myself. And I'm like, you don't understand the levels you got to go through just to make sure the channels fit. They're too hot, they're too loud, even when you know you said with the bands when we played, like I ran the guitar players through the soundboard, I'm like, you know, you guys, one is too hot, the others too.

You know, it's it's a. Whole thing just to get the basic instrument sounds in and now you're telling me you want this huge fanfare. How am I supposed to do that? Like, you know, these stunt recording softwares only go so far too, like what do you want me to?

And then they look at me and I'm like, listen, I'm doing this because there's no one else in the group that can do it. But I'm like, I'm not a composer by nature, and it's not like my forte so, but I think that's I think it's great, and you have I kind of also say your music's kind of like that that old country store, that old mom and pop shop, you know, And again it's it's I I personally love the classics for that, I'm I'm I think that's a very rare quality that you don't see anymore, especially we know, and it's in our day and age. It's almost like the stores that we see. We don't see these mom and pop places anymore.

That just doesn't survive with economics and things happening. So to see something of quality like that where it's like you're still in business after forty years. You've been around forever and nothing's taking you down. It's truly unique and truly special.

But we were looking forward to it all I want for Christmas. We're gonna look for that. If we can find that, I'm definitely gonna get it. We're gonna play it on the show because it's gonna fit right in with our Christmas holiday theme, which I haven't heard it, but I know we're gonna love it.

I'm not worried about that if it's anything like Uncle, and I'm sure, hey, hey, I'm gonna have to go listen to all of them now, so I'm definitely gonna gonna be plugging. You're like, hey, when's the next one coming out? Because I'm ready to download it, so let me know. And of course I'm sure the viewers will love it too.

We're gonna share that as well. But very very great. I love it. I again, just at the core of your life where you're at to Jimmy, you know, it's fantastic.

And again I mean that in all sincerity. I'm not you know, I think that's wonderful. And I hope even for me again being younger, like that's the kind of the model I can look for myself. Maybe one day, you know, I always tell myself what's my my future gonna look like?

Because I don't know. I'm always interested in different endeavors. But I think it's a great example and hopefully for listeners to hearing this, you know, the big key motto is you're never too old to follow your dream. You can go out there and at least try to live once, because that's all we get.

You know, there's no do over. So you know, again, I've always said it's better to try and fail than never try it all because you don't want to look back and say I could have done that, maybe I should have, maybe I could or whatever happened. I think a lot of people are scared by that today because obviously, whether it's trying to start a business and the economy is not good, or trying to you know, they're just afraid to take chances, you know, which is understandable too, and in that kind of frame too, if you equate the business and the music there, if you look at it as both in that trend, and let's say let's say we were going to try to inspire a young artist there who says, you know, Jimmy, I want to put this out there. I'm trying to go where you're going, but I don't know how to do it?

Do I bother doing it? How would you advise them? Like say, again, they have the passion for it, they want to try it. And again you could even say it's a version of a younger you.

What would you want to inspire by telling this this individual person or persons if they ask you, hey, what's your advice? How do I do this? Well? The first thing that when I did it was my business mind was the first.

Is the passion that drove me, so that creative side, but it was the business part of my mind that said, okay, investigated what does it take? What are the new because I know, you know, being a little bit older, you know, the whole world of the internet, Spotify and YouTube and all that was fairly foreign to me. And so I started researching and how do you get on Spotify? How do you distribute a song?

How do you record a song? How do you So I looked up and studied all the how do you and and you know, and it all kind of feel like, okay, I could do that, you know. And I had the choice of going out in the old style, going out in bars, let's say, and just start playing and hope you get noticed. That did not appeal to me at this stage of the day, you know, and I thought, well, wait a minute, this is pretty cool.

This is when you know technology might benefit me, is that I can put it out there and it can be listened to literally almost anywhere in the world. You know, you can't get such a bigger audience than that. And so so that's what I did. And it's funny, my, you know, when you get these this data back, which I'm a data person, it was you know, your big your most listeners are in this and the countries that listen to it, it's it's hilarious.

Yeah it is. And they're not even in English speaking countries, and I'm like, how is this song even a success? There? You know, it doesn't help when you want to get to that concert level because your your fan base is spread out all over the world.

So you know, in time that hopefully get concentrated and then I'll have enough draw to get a record deal and go out on the road. But that's how I started. I started with the passion and the creativity and writing the songs, and then the analytical side of me stepped in and said but how do you get it out there? You know, big questions an important question yep, yeah, yeah and I and again, I think that's that's the advice I always give.

You know, a lot of young guys playing, like listen, the music itself is yes, it's critical, it's important, and your crafting is there. But marketing advertise, you know, like even for us, you know, we do shows like this, you know, word of mouth we've had. It's funny you mentioned the analytics. We look at it too, and I've seen like the episodes.

We put out. We've been on the air for a while. But some of the countries that I'm like, I didn't think we would reach outside the US. Well I'm seeing we're listening to in countries like Turkey and Bangladesh, and I'm like, and Slovakia and Slavama, like these places like I've heard of.

But I'm like, oh, people, actually they listen to us, like which usually tend to be just goofy on the air, but they listen to us. So I'm like, Okay, So I guess the sky there's really is no limit when you can see, like the world is your oyster. I guess that's saying too but putting it out there, not being afraid. And I think that's just taking the plunge, committing to it.

So you know and understand. And again we've shared this, We've had topics of this discussion, and we believe here too a big advocate for level of success can be measured different ways. You know, there's no there's no right answer, there's no wrong answer. You kind of have to.

My personal thing is start small success, small goals, you know, don't try to go for the whole pie. Try to set realistic small goals to baby step to leap frog up into you know, bigger ones instead of going from here to the big one you got to get. You gotta cover the middle ground too, So you know, I think that's important and key too. And again, if you guys listening to you can see obviously Jimmy is following his love and his dream there and it's I can say again, I don't have a crystal ball, and I don't know for sure, but I would venture to guess at some point, as long as you are continue to be as passionate about your music as you are, and you keep putting it out there, something good is gonna happen more so than it has lately.

I'm willing to bet money out. You're the horse I would bet on for sure in that case. Like I said, you can hear I said it here and remember me if it happens. Hallmark TV special one of All I Want for Christmas could be could be the next track that highlights that mark my words.

I can share that for sure. But such a lot of great stuff. Jimmy, I'm so glad you could come hang out. I hope you want to come back again.

We'd love to have you revisit us here here how. Things are going? Before that we let you go to again. Obviously we can share these, but we always like to have you shameless plug on here.

Where can we find Jimmy Malier's music? Where are someplaces folks can download listen to where? Yeah, give us to us, let us fine, I'm gonna go looking tonight, so let me know where to find you. Yeah.

Absolutely, Spotify YouTube with the big, big, biggest two right, it's all my Amazon, It's on Apple. iHeartRadio just picked it up. Yeah. So I've had some some pretty good success and I always tell people just look under my name because if you look up Toddle songs.

I've never had success to that. I don't know, like as so many songs are close to the same time. Yeah, so if you can learn just about my last name, that's always the biggest obstacle. Jim L L I A.

It should be, it should bear. There's not many Malays out there in the music world. Well, I'll tell you what. So my last name, you know, is pretty long too.

And if I've actually googled myself several times, I do come up, but there's really no cop because there's who many people have that name. It's a Polish name, it's an old can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, when people go to look for me, I always tell them, yeah, just just look up whole ass, whole first name. How are we gonna find.

You'll know it's me, Believe it's it's not. There's no copycats. I'm actually hoping. I'm hoping for copycats one day, just as a form of flattery, you know, that'd be nice.

But maybe some Malier fans, maybe they'll sort a fans page for you. You could have it there. We might just start one just for the fun of it, just to kind of put me out there too. So yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, why not.

You gotta have the doring fans. We're gonna troll you anyway, so but we'll definitely check that out. You guys can find that. We'll get some more links if you want to share them with us, we'll be happy to you.

We can get them from Starlight too. They'll give us some stuff as well. But Jimmy Malier, thank you for joining us here. A new song uncle, And at this point, if you guys didn't find All I Want for Christmas just in time for the holidays, drop it.

Go listen to it now. Put it on your Christmas playlist. Play it while you're baking cookies, while you're setting up the tree, wrapping presents, play it all around and crank it up. Don't worry about the neighbors.

It's you know, just just just crank it up. You know, it's Christmas. It's wholesome of that better than probably your other neighbors play their stuff, so you know, why not why not make it fun for that as well. But we appreciate though, Jimmy, thank you so much for being here as a pleasure.

I'll look forward to seeing you again, hopefully rather sooner than later, but we appreciate it's such a great honored pleasure here. Thank you so much, Thank you very much. It's been so awesome to talk to you. I really appreciate it.

I hope to be back on and who knows, maybe a year from now. You know, I'll be a big success. You know, I'll have you back on here go remember when. Yeah, we'll keep the keep that track.

We save it in the database like here, remember this track. We'll play back the interview I said we knew you when before he was famous. Then there you're gonna you know what, there's your Netflix special right there. Yeah, and again we don't have to be on, but if we would get like a small like a little tiny note motion in it happ be great or not mentioned there, that's great.

But you know, I'm not shameless plugging, but I am, so I just have to put it out there. So but thank you very much though to you Jimmy. Again, I know it's a little bit past, but we hope your Thanksgiving is wonderful, you have a great time with family, but we can say happy Holidays, Merry Christmas to you as well. Will definitely be in touch and we will get you back on the sooner side too, and best of luck even after Christmas with your endeavors, with the tracks you come out.

We're going to be following closely, so excited to see what comes out next. But this has been a great interview. Ladies and gentlemen. Jimmy Mollier check him out there wherever you can find your music there again, learn to spell the name right.

If you get it right, you'll find it. We will help you. We're going to advertise it, so if you get it wrong, well that's your own fault. But we're just saying just to put it out there.

So Jimmy, thank you so much. Have a wonderful rest of your evening. We'll be in touch and take. Care very much.

You're very welcome. We'll get you back sin take care all right, you guys. This has been another wonderful, wonderful episode. We are so thankful you tuned in for this.

I hopefull you guys enjoy that plenty more to come. More exciting things are going to happen. We hope that you will stay tuned for that as well, and we are going to continue to play he Jimmy song. Uncle will play it throughout the next few episodes we got coming up, so we hope you look forward to that.

We will see you tomorrow night, Saturday night, November thirtieth, it's Big Hoss's birthday bash. Hope you guys can join us live. We are excited to do that for him. The kick off the end of the month and then our Christmas holiday episodes begin, which we will definitely want you guys to be around for.

You don't want to miss it. All the fun, all the trimmings, the tree, the presence, the snow, the morkage ass for It's fantastic, It's wonderful. So we'll see you guys though tomorrow night. Thank you as always for joining us.

We love and appreciate all your support. Go support Jimmy. Make sure you listen to the music. You would appreciate that.

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Welcome podcast fans. It's time for the What's Up Bro Podcast Show, presented by Jay and J Production Studios, the home for all your entertainment needs, all kinds of great topics discussed every week, a variety of different themes offered, special guest appearances, prize giveaways, and so much more. Stay tuned and now here your hosts, Sam Crow and Big Hoss. Hello, good evening, everybody.

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We have a very special musical guest joining us tonight. We're going to talk to him and find out about his journey there. We got so many great questions we're gonna ask, but we want to introduce to you joining us tonight, singer songwriter. Please give a round of applause to Jimmy Mollyer.

Ladies and gentlemen in studio. I know you probably can't hear it, but we don't. Play out with the audience, So welcome, Welcome to Jimmy. So nice to see you.

Thanks for coming to hang out, of course, but also if I turn your microphone on, there we go. Sorry, he did say thank you. He's got to be here, so got a lot of great questions here. I listened to the we're gonna talk about your new song, which fantastic, by the way, I just want to say, off the bat, I think it was.

Now I will say I'm not an overly diehard country lover, but there are certain songs that do have They do kind of hit me in the right place there, you know, And I think this particular one kind of had a little bit more of a I could see the story behind it, which I like. I like the adventure of trying to understand where it's going. So we're gonna dive into that and more. But how we traditionally do this, since you are new to the show, what we like to do is we ask our guest to share a little bit.

You don't have this site to share about your music journey, just a little bit about background. Who is Jimmy, anything you want to share to help us get to know you a little bit, and then we're going to pick apart your your music career and things of that nature. So who is Jimmy, Mollie, who can you tell us about yourself? Oh?

Okay, great, Yeah, yeah, I'm Jimmy and I I'm six years old. I was born in little island called Galveston Island in Galveston On, Galveston, Texas. A lot of people know about it. It's pretty pretty tiny, yeah, pretty small, and great upbringing.

Came from a fairly large family. Then I went off to the University of Texas, started a business career, went into insurance. I did it for gosh thirty years. Wow.

And I I played guitar as a kid, and you know, it's when I first started learning. It was probably I actually learned probably at the age of thirteen. And I actually had my first guitar teacher was a nun Catholic school taught me how to play guitar. Wow.

That was kind of interesting, you know, it was awesome. I mean, I did any different, so it was kind of fun. And but once I got into college, I kind of put the guitar down, and then about sixteen years or so ago, I picked it back up, started taking lessons again and playing, and after a couple of years started uh just randomly writing songs and wrote them for a quite a while, just for no other reason, just to write them and put music to it. And a little over a year ago I kind of thought, well, you know what am I going to do with these?

I would love for somebody to sing them. I'd love to sell them, you know whatever. Started looking into it, and I kind of just decided, you know what, I think I'm going to release these on my own, you know, with me actually singing. And so a little over a year ago I started releasing songs on Spotify, YouTube, Amazon and all the sites.

That's a pretty pretty warm reception, and so I just, you know, kept going and until I don't get anymore I guess, you know, reception. So it's been pretty cool. You're you're kind of like reminding me of the regular average day Eddy Money there, you know, kind of a little one sided career, not expecting to hit the music scene, and all of a sudden in the latter portion of your career, music just kind of hits. You you know.

I mean, nobody knew any money was in the New York Police officer for what twenty some years, and then all of a sudden he hits it big and that's really all that he's known for now. So I love that, and I also love the fact that and pardon me and help me this to sound insulting any way, like I love the fact even at your age where you're taking that journey there, you know, it kind of breaks the barriers of anybody can do anything at any age, right, there's no really restrictions. So I personally think that's fantastic. I think it's a great testament because especially following your passion.

You know, we've had we've had other artists, we've had groups on the show. One in particular, I could think of who you know, still a lot younger, but same kind of rare quality where it's like, you know, something I enjoy, something I love, I'm really trying to pursue it, you know, whether or not I get big. And they're kind of a small time band. They're starting to make it big.

But it's just the concept of not just chasing, chasing the dream, of not worrying about the success necessarily, but trying to find the passion there. You know, we've had the discussions too, which we're gonna get in deeper because I want to get your thoughts as well. But how the music industry is today where a lot of people are trying to get overnight success. They're not so much worried about the quality of their song content they're putting out.

They're just trying to put whatever just to say I want to make it big. So I think that's that's really fantastic. And my first big question was which kind of touched on it? But as I was reading through your information looking at this, and this is one thing that stuck out to me where you mentioned too how you know about it?

Stated there, you know you weren't thinking about singing it. You just wanted to do the writing you want. At what point did you discover that, you know what, maybe I could sing this or I wanted to Did you have that what led you to decide to sing then your songs as you wrote. Them, Well, it first came that Okay, I've got to get it out there, and I didn't know of any way to get it out there and get heard other than it being song, right, and so rather than kind and just sending it off to places and trying to find other artists who would sing my songs, I decided, well, okay, I'll put it out there sort of just you know, throw it out into the wind with me just singing it.

Probably you know, at least they'll maybe they'll hear the story because most of my most of my songs are like stories. They're basically stories of my life, you know. And so it kind of got to be, well, who better to tell the story than me? You know, you know, And and there's a certain you know, tongue that you know in a melody and everything that goes with it, Well, it's easy to part you put your heart into it when it's your story.

There's something to that, you know. You know, I know in a song where I want to want it to sound a certain way, because that's the intent of what I want listeners, you know, to to hear and to feel more important, to feel, you know, if I can get somebody to feel a certain way and to feel the way this song is into to make you feel, that's a win. Yeah, you know. Sure.

So so I did the first one, which my first song was called Hey Hey, and it was about my journey to sobriety and it's sung in a ballroom, sing a long kind of song. Yeah. For me, sobriety is a joyous, incredible, life altering thing after I drank for forty plus years and it's so wonderful. But I felt I could give it that passion that it needed to have to get that message across.

And that's what's starting. Yeah, it's kind of like a same thing. You know. It's sort of like if you if you wrote your own movie or you had a script, you know.

I mean, obviously actors play the part, but sometimes you feel like, and I don't. I always wonder like, for directors, how do you get your message there? Because you know the story you're trying to tell and there are a lot of gifted actors you know that can pull it off, let's be honest, but just trying to really you know, communicate that between director actor, trying to get that out. Same thing with music too, you know, I've I've done sort of the similar thing.

I wrote amateur songs there, you know, I did that through the bands I played in, and it's like, you know, trying to describe how I want the sound and a lot of times the other player guys are like, how do you want this sound? I'm like, well, I can hear. I'm trying to break it down for you, but it's it's I can't really get you in my head kind of thing, like unless you're in my head, you kind of know. So, but it's that's really great.

And I will say, you know, you have the best way when I listened to the song was It's given me that Johnny Cash kind of smooth kind of vibe to it. You know, you have that nice, dark, husky kind of okie sound to it, you know, and it was really catchy. And that's the thing. The story of it just kind of like kept me captivated through it because I'm like, I'm walking that journey with you, like I'm almost living that experience.

So and I'm sure that's the goal and hopefully others too. Now I haven't heard. Hey, I'm have to listen to it because I'd love to hear about your journey to sobriety. It is a wonderful thing.

Congratulations on that too. That's that's huge. You know a lot of people don't get as fortunate, but it's nice to have that where you have those real moments, you know, and people can connect with you because you could say, hey, I didn't make this up, this was really me. This is a story.

It's like reading your diary. Basically. This is between the lines behind closed doors, which hopefully the audiences generate too and they like I'm sure, but just the concept that you know, you went out there, you're taking a chance, you know, I mean again, you're familiar with the music there, you had it kind of sort of in the background, but coming in the stage and saying, you know what, probably don't have many perks left, right, I mean, as you get older, I don't know, I won't know probably for a little while yet, but I'm sure you know you say, you know what, what's what's the harm in that? You know, you only live once, so you know, getting out there and you know, for just just starting recently, I mean again, it's it's incredible.

What has that thrill been for you since you start? Now you're you're seeing some growth to it. How does that make you feel like in the sense of accomplishment for the for this lack of better term of you know, at least you know, maybe you're not sure if it's gonna happen. But how do you feel now that you're seeing like it's out there, these songs are there and you're getting their responses back.

What does that signify to you? Well, it's been overwhelming, humbling, you know. Uh, and obviously kind of affirmed what I what I wanted to do. You know.

When I first released say Hey It, it actually was one of the most viral songs on Spotify according to Spotify. I don't know what that means exactly, you know, but win, Yeah, yeah, I think they're win. They say it okay. So and I went out there kind of with a bang.

Not only did I my first song was not just you know, okay one I wrote. It was one that was deeply personal to me about my sobriety and in hopes of encouraging people there is joy and sobriety. It's actually a whole lot of fun. And that was along with the message that it took me forty years to get there.

Yeah, you know, but once I got there, it was a lot of fun. So it's and it's a very you know, fun song to do. And it was fun because it was the first time that I had to pick out other instruments to be you know, I was just being a guitar. You know.

That was so much fun to create that part because I knew, no, I want it fast here, I want it loud here. And then I wanted this emote. I want to you know, emote this emotion here. And so it was such an incredible experience I thought, okay, you know, when I released it, I thought, okay, I did it.

Not only have I thrown myself out there with words that I've written and my own voice, but a very deep, deep issue for me, and it was so well received and shot up and did very well. I was like, wow, okay, maybe maybe I have something maybe you know, you know. And so I've just continued to do that, and each one of my songs has a different sort of meaning, almost all about my life, different stuff about my life, but somewhere in there at intertwines with my life. And the reception has been you know, yeah, I wouldn't say that I'm it's gone viral, and since I'm not getting like a million streams and you know, all that, not quite you know, so it's definitely not any kind of overnight, you know, two months success, sure, but it's enough it's enough for me.

I have done it. I've put it out there, you know, and we'll see where the where it goes from there. Yeah. No, it's a great positive reflection on that again, because that's your heart, that's your work that you put into it, that's what you you know.

You're striving for. Now, let me ask this, and again this is more of a curiosity question given that I'm a bit of a younger man, so I'm not quite as far in the journey as you. But do you find since you have equated your life experiences with your music, do you find that the well is overflowing where you have plenty of stuff to work with that you know you're not gonna have constant writer's block you have you know, I can pull this from my life. I could write a song here, I could pull this.

Do you kind of find that flow when you do your creative process? Oh? Absolutely, yeah. I mean I've got probably twenty five to thirty songs I've written.

Wow, Okay, where there is? So I've already got a pretty deep well. But it's it's I haven't even touched the bottom. Because you know, I'm sixteen years old and I've and I joke often joked that my my life is not boring.

You could Netflix could get ten seasons out of my life easily, awesome, you know. Uh, And and not I've not had a boring year in my life, and so I've got a whole lot of material I still have left untapped. That that's really that's impressive, I mean, And again, I like the zeal there because you know, you're not looking at it where you know, maybe some would say you shouldn't be this exuberant, you shouldn't be this excited. You're you're coming into the latter years.

You know, you shouldn't have this energy like you almost would have an energy if somebody like me who's younger, with that enthusiasm. And you know, but it's and again the concept core with when when writing the music, and I've always been a huge fan of it, especially like I love to listen to scores from films. You know, obviously makes it. It tells the story.

It captivates the audience more so probably than you know, the scenes. There's some movie areas where the music actually makes the scene because it kind of grips you down deep. So when you do that for your material, and again, the personal connections. And I think I think it's brilliant too, the fact you singing it because who else, you know, who better and you know, not that somebody else couldn't probably sing it and do it justice.

But at the same time, it's it's a deeper reach to the soul where you can connect with somebody too. And again let's just say use the example of hey, hey, with you know the sobriety too, like maybe somebody hears that message and when you say, you know that is based on my life, Oh, you know, this is a connecting moment. This is it's possible, it can happen. It's uplifting.

So I think that's that's really incredible there. But just the I don't even know how to put that in the phrase there, just the uniqueness that you put into it. Like I read through some of the lyrics there, I heard the song like again, I was playing at looping it a few times because again, it's it's not overly, it's not very drowned out. It's not like super scory over the top.

You know, you're not playing a forty piece BA you know. But it has a nice it has a nice tone, a nice sound to it. You know, and again it's kind of like it's there's stuff to interpret those things, not like the music we have today we're younger, you know, like, well, I don't myself count as music, but some of these these bands that you can't understand the lick of the worst they're saying. So I like the quality of that now when talking about bridging the gap here and again, this is where I wanted to just get your thoughts on this too.

When you obviously, you know, again not super big time, but obviously I'm sure you follow what's going on musically too. When you look at the music world today compared to say, maybe when you were a lot younger, maybe most of our age, so you know, I'm in my mid thirties, you know, but uh, you know, compared to the contrast, what is what is some major things? Like I know there's going to be pros and cons to everything, but like if you could go back and tell yourself when you were younger too about writing music, if you had the chance or there any is there anything you would say, hey, look, this is what's coming up down in the future, the things to consider. Would it change your approach your style in any way?

You'd ever get any thought to those kind of things. I mean, I guess if I had started earlier, when I was younger, in my twenties and thirties, I think my songs would have been vastly different, to be honest, and they probably would have been more mainstream. And I don't consider my my song's mainstream whatsoever. I think there's probably a niche market for it, but I don't think that there's a lot of it out there.

So I think there's room for it out there in the music world, you know, for people that want a song that reminds them of a memory, of a feeling, of a something, you know, that tells the story. Yeah, And at the end of the day, that's all I'm really doing is telling stories one way or the other, you know. And so I don't think I would have had the experience or the passion when I was younger. So I think I'm doing it at the right time in my life where it means something, and I think that meaning comes out in my lyrics, you know.

I think it's that experience that I would not have had as a younger person. In no way regret not doing it earlier. And if I had done it, earlier, it wouldn't be what it is now. So whether that turns out to be good or popular or not, I don't know, but it's more true, you know.

Sure, No, that's that's a great way to look at I mean, and you know, same thing where and you can always Again, I'm a big advocate for at least you know you tried it. You know. I'm a big fan of the old saying it's better try and fail than never try it all. So, no matter what stage of life you're at, you know, and I've always had issues where I've had other, you know, groups people I play with, all younger guys, like you have to really hone your craft.

You have to love what you're doing there for that, you can't expect the reward to happen overnight. I had guys that play with It's like, I want to be in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. Overnight. Doesn't happen like that.

Nobody's going to be like the Beatles is gonna hit big or the Stunt. Could it happen? Sure, But if you're shooting for that bigger goal, you kind of lose sight of the of everything that kind of happens in the process, so you know, and and who knows. You know, even at this stage you might say, well, maybe it'll turn into something maybe.

You know, obviously it's got some would I make it big? Who's to say anymore? I mean the game, the game has changed so much, the dynamics of the music industry has changed. So I like to say, and I'm always a big advocate, same thing with sports.

I like the root for the older guys. I say, you know what, everybody should have a fair chance to at least get an opportunity to, if nothing else, get something heard out there. And you know, and who knows, maybe maybe your song will get picked up for you know, television or maybe a film. Perhaps you know, I don't know if that's ever been a thought in your mind, but it's always you know, it could happen.

But I think I like that. I like the notion there. You know, you're passionate about it. You you know, you can't look backwards, you know, obviously, you know, move through life.

I think we all have that moment we look back and say, maybe I could have done something different, you wouldn't be probably where you are today. I totally agree with you there, But just the journey itself. I mean, I think that's the most and I I would ask ye too, just if you could, even if these songs didn't go anywhere, would you even regret the journey? Because if you love music so much, right, it wouldn't change your outlook, right, you wouldn't.

You wouldn't trade it away. I mean, it's great if something comes back, but even if it did, you would still love it. Right, Oh? Absolutely.

I Mean the whole point was for me to to do it, you know, a couple of reason me, just at this age or stage of life or whatever, to do something that it has been a dream of mine, you know, back in the in the back of my mind to do I've had other you know, big successes in business and and other things, but this was this is a passion, you know. And it's like and the things I wanted to say and the way I wanted to say it and the way I wanted it to sound is what I'm putting out there. And so yeah, it'd be great. It's if it's as success.

I will never hope to never get to the point where it's like, hey, okay, this really works. But if you do it this way, this is what people really like. Now, I won't be that person that's not you know, I'll put it out there. I hope obviously that other people relate to it, that it touches people on a deeper level than maybe they get in other parts of music, and that against popular.

But at no point do I think I would ever go, Okay, well, maybe if you sing about this, you know, people want to hear about you know this, you know, then go sing about this, you know, or make it sound like this. That's not me. That's not my sound, that's not what I write about. So if it goes nowhere, it goes nowhere.

But as the old saying, I did it my way, you know so, and I'll be very happy. With that that I was going to ask you that, you know, when you we've had several discussions I've been on involved in other topics. We talked about this, but in your opinion looking at it, when you see these these younger groups, these younger artists who you know, they have potential, they have great quality stuff, when you see them make those sacrifices where they're sacrificing the quality just because the record label signed them. But now you know they record abel signs you will you sign over controlling rights and you sign over you know that you got to read the fine print of you sign the label, they own your your album.

You don't necessarily get control with the music that technically is yours. But when you see that kind of thing, you know, and again like what do you how do you how do you feel like as a true artist for that one when you see these these young guys they sacrifice, How does that make you feel? What is it? What do you?

What do you think when you see these kind of things, Like, again, they have so much potential talent, but they're selling out everything just for a chance to make it big. Yeah, I think I think you, without sounding too extatuative, you lose your soul, You lose who you are, you know, because I think as a musician, I think most of us, you know what We'll tell you, what we do is our passionate, is who we are, and if we start doing that to please other people, then we've totally literally lost ourselves, you know. And so I luckily I have a business background, so I would never sign away the rights of my song. I don't care what you offered me, but copyrights will be my copyrights will be my copig.

I will own my song. So you know, that probably will limit any any you know, a lot of potential, you know, people that want to recorded or whatever. But it's just but that is far more important to me than the other. You know, if I go down and smoke, but I but I keep my songs, okay, so be it, you know.

But you know, and I would imagine being younger. If you're younger and you just want to make it big, you're gonna make those personal deep sacrifices to get there. Well, you know what, I don't have to do that, you know, so I'm not gonna you know, that's a luxury. Yeah, that's for sure.

I mean, and again it goes back to that's a plus column for being at the stage of life there too, and I also think that at the stage of life where you're at, that's also seasoned experience, where you know, and again and then maybe perhaps in being in the business world too, recognizing too that there's so much more. I feel like to a lot of these younger artists, you don't they don't read the fine print. They always they don't sign the contract unless you're reading your fine print. There's you know, it's kind of like the risk reward factor.

They get the reward up front, but you're not asking them, well, what's it going to cost me? Because you know, there's that old saying nothing in life is free. So you know, maybe you get that recording contract, maybe you get that retainer, that money up front to start recording working in the studio, but they're not giving it to you for nothing. What is it that they want that you're not reading the fine print?

So before you put your John Hancock there, make sure you know you read it through because they've seen it often. You know, the media there there's so many art fights over controlling rights for songs. A lot of guys, a lot of these popular artists are selling their their entire catalogs just because they want to make the money. Now, you know, and I'm thinking of myself, boy, like like famous artists like have like three hundred songs that you know they were all for decades that was how do you just like, for lack of term, I hate to say, like throwing it away, how do you just like relinquish that?

And you know it's like that was your entire like life's work. You know, that was something that you you know, you put your blood, sweat and tears into and now, yeah, just because there's a few more dollars you give it, but is it really worth it? And I agree with you. I think you know, you lose your soul there.

But I think it's maybe the generation of it too. I think it's the times you obviously everything is digital now. You know, live performances are not like they were, you know, popular way back in the heyday. You know, obviously there's some live show performances, but most people now get everything digitally.

They download songs. So most artists work in the studio now. They don't go out touring or traveling as much as you know, thirty years ago, that was a huge thing way back when. But I think you're in a nice little, unique little cubicle, if you will, if you kind of get the best of that world where you don't have the pressures there.

You know, you don't have to deal with cameras at your door. You know, you can live your own life. You're not exactly under the microscope too, which has got to be nice as well. But you still enjoying the prospect of what do they say, the minor celebrity idea like you're not necessarily selling platinum albums, but you're at least getting out there too.

So I and I think it going back to again, your song's running about journey and stuff. It's a great market that I think is kind of is untapped. There's not a lot of people that are going that route. They're trying to find creative ways to be expressive, and what better way to express it?

When you write a song about your life, and who's to say it's not going to be exciting. Everybody says, well, I don't know if my life's interesting enough to write about. I'm sure authors have the same problem with their autobiographies and books. I can see where that happens, you know, even for us doing songs.

You know, I sat there like I must have crumpled how many pages trying to be like, I know what I want to say, but I can't get it out, and it's kind of like stuck in my head, and then trying to ask the others to do it. It's like, how do we do all this stuff? But it's really it's interesting when you talk about that process there now and when I mentioned it earlier though, if there was an opportunity, let's just say, for example, if you were approached and someone said, you know, Jimmy, we we liked these songs, this one particular song. We have a TV show idea, we have a small maybe movie part there.

What would that be something you would consider in negotiation with. I mean again, there's also the creative issue too, But if that wasn't offer to you, would you consider at least the process of potentially entertaining doing something like that. Yeah, I would definitely, depending on what they wanted to do with this song, you know. For example, if they wanted to take my song and put it into a I don't know, let's say a New Age movie or something, so they wanted to totally change the melody, you know, and put some phonics in all electric, you know, and and really change it up, I would probably honestly say no, thank.

You, No makes sense. Yeah, if they wanted to keep it for the purpose that the song was written, it fit into the movie, you know, and it was a good movie. But absolutely, yeah, of course, you know, you know, and I hope I would stay away from well, I just got to do this so I get it out there, you know, because I think at the end of the day, I'll know that I'd be able to live with myself number one, and it wouldn't. I don't think it would go over very well, you know, I have I have a pretty good faith in that it'll end up in the right place at the right time.

And yeah, I could definitely see some of my songs being in a movie. You know. I'ven't gotten that response a lot, like, oh my god, this would be so great in this kind of movie, you know. And I'm like, I would absolutely love for one of my songs to make it into a movie, you know, as long as they didn't alter it and change it in you know whatever too.

Much, fair point, you know. And and again that's that's where that that you careful with the creative side of you know. And like again a lot of young young artists jumping at it saying, you know what, yes, it's a movie or TV opportunity, but what do they want to do with it? Like just as an example, because I notic was talked about and this is one of the songs that they don't touch it when they when they did the Deadpool Wolverine film, and I know Yan Reynolds came out and said we had to go to Madonna.

We went to her. House because she never relinquishes the rights to her songs. But he's like, I wanted like a prayer in the movie. But like we had to jump through hoops to even take the meeting with her to ask her can we use the song in the film and how can we?

Which it was great because they said we she was working through the whole process like they wanted. They didn't want to dishonor her with the song. It's a great song. They said, you know, how can we We want to tweak it, but we don't want to ruin it.

And they asked her. They had her involved in the filming process, like where it fits. So it was kind of nice and it worked out well. I think it fit the film nicely.

But you don't always get that. Again, obviously at her level of celebrity, that's clearly you have to bend and really jump through hoops to to acquire the rights, which they said. She was gracious enough she allowed that to happen, but you know, she wanted to be formally asked, which Ryan Reynold said, Yeah, I'll come to your house you offer me to do it. I would love to use the film you know, what's it going to cost me?

I we be happy to do it. So those of lengths to it, you know, it makes sense. But it's kind of a nice idea. That's a nice frame of when you know the quality is so good and someone says, yeah, this would fit perfectly in this film.

Maybe if it's just a small little scene or a little maybe you know, I was, I was even thinking the way I heard a song like I can even hear some of your stuff in like children's programming like these little you know, just because of the story aspect, maybe there's a background kind of like one of those storybooks come to life kind of thing, or audio books kind of a thing. And again there I would imagine there's not much change there. But you know, as long as you're open minded, which I'm sure you are, what would be the sky's the limit for you as far as ultimate accomplishment if you had to put a cap on it. You know, again, I'm being as laid back as you are, though, But if you had to say I have an ultimate goal, what would that be.

An open goal for what I want to accomplished with my music? Use it? Yep? Yeah, Oh, I mean I absolutely would love to.

I'd love to perform, you know, at some point in time in concert, you know, and and get a record deal, no doubt, that's my ultimate goal. But but I don't I wouldn't do it at the cost of Okay, that's great, but we're totally trashing the melody in this song and we're gonna we want you to do it this way. I would I would not do that. Well, I don't think I could do that because when you write the song, at least for me, when I write the song, a lot of them are so deeply personal that it'd be like changing my memory, you know, because I know what I I know what I hope it evokes, you know, like Uncle.

My last release, Uncle is very much a true story about my childhood experience with an old, you know, eccentric uncle of mine. But my hope is that other people will have the same, similar memory of somebody in their family. That meant they had this distinct memory they could connect to that, right, you know, from six years old. I remember this one.

I was six years old. It was that important to me. That's what was So you know that, and you're hoping someone else feels like, oh, that reminds me of my uncle or my grandparents rapper. Yeah, so I and I think that's a fair.

That's a fair, says and again, you're staying true to yourself. You know you're not And I again I love that. I say it's old school of the whole. You know, you're staying true to the art form itself.

You're not just going to sell out, because if you did that, I'm sure you probably would get signed overnight. That's that's obviously a huge draw there. But you you're not willing to throw away, you know, making them change your entire image and tire everything. You're not willing to sacrifice that just to be famous there, which again is such a rare quality because you know, again a lot of the younger generation too, that's it's instant famoustant success.

They see all these big timers doing it. They they want to follow that model. And again there's nothing wrong with that, but there's got to be some understanding reality. And again, if you are not true to yourself, you know, how do you go about even trying to make it there?

Because the whole idea is for you if you want to be unique, I don't. I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't want to be any other artists. I want to mimic. I don't want to be another Drake.

I don't want to min I want to be me. I want to be myself, you know, I want to If people are gonna like the music, they're gonna like. It because it's mine, not because I copied. You know, any of these bands up there that did all this stuff, And again it's no disrespect to them, but it's it's just that concept of uh staying truly unique, true to yourself there, which is fantastic.

So that that that's truly wonderful. What we do want to do here is we are gonna have to reset our meeting time. We're gonna take a break. We do have your song cute up.

We're gonna play it for you guys listening, because we want to hear what we're talking about, to give you a little taste that Jimmy here, what he's got going on. We're gonna we're gonna talk more about some of the other stuff. Maybe before the night's over. We can see if he'll clue us in any projects he's got under the under the blanket, if he's willing to share to spill the tea.

That's the saying. We'll ask him that. We'll talk a little bit more and get in depth of that stuff as well. But we're gonna pause here.

I will be in touch with you off the air. There. We're gonna see if I can get the meeting restarted. If we need a new link.

I'm not sure if that one will work. We'll coordinate. We'll get you back in here. We have to wait about a few minutes because the free program online lets us do so much sadly, so we're still trying to work it out, but I appreciate it.

Patience there, we'll get you in so but this is a great chance for you guys to have a quick break. But listen to this. We're gonna play this track first. The song is called Uncle, written by Jimmy Mallier, a personal experience from him, a childhood memory that he put a lot of time, a lot of effort into it.

Again, it's incredible. I listened to it multiple times today. It just is very short, sweet to the point. It's got a nice melody, and I think you guys are really going to enjoy it.

So we'll be right back. I'm gonna close off the meeting here, Jimmy, we'll get you back. Stick around, don't go far. But for you guys listening, check it out.

This is gonna be uncle. We'll talk more about that with Jimmy Malier when we come back after this. Enjoy that for a short commercial break, we'll talk more at the What's Up Bro Podcast show. You're number one true home for entertainment.

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Green means going and red means stop the call. I'll tell you when from me other seat at home, Janini you me my tream well you the homo. To everyone similly. Uncle was all that I knew.

He was loud, He was me and fun any love me? That's much I know? Saturday? Where are day alone?

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We are hanging out and talking to Fulcan country singer Jimmy and we actually did a first here on the show. We played your song not once, but twice, because it's always better when you play it a second time, because you always can get something. I gotta say, I'm just sitting here just you know, bob into it. It's it's so nice though, I mean really again, I don't mean it to sound degrading there.

It's simplistic enough, but you can follow along where I don't know, and I feel like I feel like I'm in the car with you, Like I feel like I'm taking that journey. Like when you're painting. I had my eyes closed. I'm like, I'm going back to when I'm a kid thinking about car trips I've took to my parents, and I'm like, this is kind of like I could imagine me if I were at your point.

This is a song I would write. Now, my car trips were probably a lot different, but you kind of get the idea the similarities there, but that that's honestly, that's that's fantastic when this song kind of sparked for you, when this kind of became you know, when you knew you wanted to write this, You have the material. Let's say, you kind of knew your life story already. You know, what was it like when you were crafting it and putting it together?

You know again, because you're kind of reliving that experience and you're trying to put it down a paper into words, How did that feel when you actually got the process going, even before like the rough draft, before the final result. Well, you know they usually when I start a song, it's it's a line or a thought or a memory. You know, it's just that one thing and I and I sit down there and expand sort of from there. And so with uncle, who's the real person, it started with just all these very vivid, vivid memories of just one you know, we did it a bunch of times, but a Saturday, a typical Saturday morning with my uncle and uh and and it's it's just replaying a memory.

But to be able to replay that memory and hopefully hopefully build a visual for the listener. You know, it is so at least I hope I did you know that? Yes, I take you along in the car with me, and you can visualize, you know, going into a barroom, you know, with my uncle or not, you know, and all that, and and I find it a really funny, humorous story that as an adult you look back at your childhood some of your best childhood memories and it includes just hanging out with your uncle on a Saturday and going around town and ending up in a bar. You know, that in and of itself is kind of funny.

Oh, you know, there's a whole comedy show right there for that just alone. You can probably right forget about Andy Griffith. This is like the more modern, you know, different first, you know. But it's fun.

It's fun though, because you know, like I said, when I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is where I can picture I can really put myself in that car seat there, Like I feel like I can hear the trees rustling when we're driving, and I mean literally it's just so soothing when honestly, I could probably tell you I might even put this on when I go to bed tonight and just listen to it because it's got me like so it's so relaxing and so comforting that it's almost like that that comfort like you know little kids have, like their their safety blanket or their stuff the animal. It kind of feels like you're wrapped in that, you know. And I've had nostalgic moments of memories and you know, I wish I could. I you know, I should have my own theme music, but I don't.

But maybe one day that could be a retirement plan for me. But I just I just love the idea of that. And you know, we'll be curious. I'm gonna we're gonna track down your other song.

I definitely want to hear we are going to I did share this too, And again, of course we always as long as you're okay to we we have the NP three or m P four. We do like to play it on our shows occasionally, just to remind folks of the pokes that we have here. So as long as you have no objections there, of course, we always like to have permission for that too. Of course, Oh absolutely, I'd really appreciate that.

I'd love that. No, no, we we we always love we had We're getting quite a collection of every It's kind of like our our trade symbol. Whenever we have a music guest on, we ask them for a clip or two or a song or two so that we can you know, put it through and you know it just and for the audience, it's just something that captivates and reminds them of, you know, those moments there. Of course, obviously we will definitely welcome you to come back at some point.

We love to hear your journey further too. But I want to I want to kind of come in toward the latter part or the end here where I want to see and I'm gonna I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play the Harvey Levin moment. I'm gonna be the media detective.

Come in and now again, we're not obligated to answer that. Is there anything can we can we peek behind your music factory? What have you got coming up next that you haven't released yet that you can tell us? Is there anything that you got cooking that you can share the spill the tea with us?

I don't want to, I'm gonna be paparazzi here. I want to see if I can push it? Can I can I get it out of you know what are you willing to share? Come on, give it to us right here, right now, exclusive right here.

I haven't told I haven't released it yet, nor is done. I don't think they've even done the press release or anything. But it's coming up day after Thanksgiving, my first and probably will only be my only Christmas song. H Okay.

He's got to come out Friday after Thanksgiving. And it's called All I Want for Christmas, not an original title, but the theme is different, okay, and for the first time, I kind of did a throwback again. It's kind of a child memory, you know, being crossby Frank Sinapstein, all those great you know musicians that played that holiday music when I was a kid, So it's it's kind of a tip of the hat to them. But you know, I can never do anything without having that folky sort of country sound to it.

But it's I think has a unique blend of both in it. Okay, and uh, I like the lyrics. I think it's catchy. Uh.

We've got a lot more mix in it, you know, uh, and instruments in it with jingle bells and all that kind of stuff. But I think I think it's pretty cool. It's just a fun, you know, happy song, you know, and uh, I don't think they've been a whole lot of new Christmas songs released in the last couple of decades. Yeah, so I'm hoping maybe people find this to be nostalgic and fun at the same time.

Well, let me just say this, and the audience knows too. We've been sharing this and now we are coming into our end of the Weekend's the end of November already, if we can believe it. But our big draw we love is we have Christmas music. We do have real to free that we do share.

We love. There are great tracks, a lot of great artists that have shared this which we subscribe to, and we're able to get their tracks to It's an absolute favorite. That seems to be like our biggest draw of the year is the holiday season. So I will say right off the bat, since this is an exclusive there, I'm really excited to track it down to hear it because we got the Christmas music rolling in the house like all the time.

So if this is a Jimmy Molly, if this is an original coming in like and I love the idea. It's based off of classics it's based off of but yet it's still you. Now, how how close to home is this based? Because your songs are based off of personal experiences.

Just have a really good personal Christmas moment from when. You were growing up. I shouldn't be surprised, but you know, I was just wanted to do. Yeah.

I don't want to assume though. I want to make sure we're you know, clear but. Pretty with me. It's actually it's called all I want for Christmas is my girls.

My my girls. I mean my three daughters. I have three daughters that are that are a and uh so it's all about you know, you can take all the rest of Christmas right away from me, but just give me. That Wow that that's again.

I gotta say, I will be disappointed if you if any of these tracks don't end up in a feature film or some maybe a home or a Christmas special. Maybe the Christmas song could be there. I mean, yeah, that's you know, you see some of these classic movies and obviously there's original music. Why can't your song be there?

And again, how many movies are about family, all about the holidays. So I'm definitely gonna write a letter to the editor for that one, but we'll see how that got. But that that's that's awesome. I mean again, it's it's not shocking too because we're coming into the holiday season.

But so to be fair than to ask how long have you had this on? Have you had this in the works for a little bit, or how long have it taken you to get this? Okay, so just the actual release. Of part I've probably wrote it a year and a half ago.

And I mean, you can't release it in July, right, I mean there is that part of marketing you do have to adhere too, that's true, but that's a that's about the only element that I have. So I've had it and I spent a lot of time on the instruments and the mixing and everything else because I really wanted a certain sound to it, sure, and that throwback sound, and I think I accomplished it with the great health, great guys, and so we waited until Christmas. Yeah, well you know, I'm actually again it makes sense for that too, and I think it's it's it's great and again, build up the hype and obviously you know, we we'll mention that too, like everybody's gonna go Actually technically by the time everybody hears this, it's probably released today anyway, because it's gonna be Friday, and so it's out there now. It's out there now, and again we will before we close, and I too, we're gonna have you.

We do have some things we can share, but we want you to tell everybody where we can find your music. We always like to have the artists do that at the very end. But I did want to ask this earlier. But when you have a creative process, when you work with other instruments, I'm assuming you probably have worked with other musicians before.

What is that quality, like, whether it's a Christmas song or just a regular song, how do you find that just the camaraderie even the creative process when you work with other musicians and your process of you knowing what you want, especially if it's your song, how do you find the working relationship when you try to get others to see your vision. That's a great question because I went through when I first started this as a just a total novice. Still am you know? I went to recording studios.

That's what you do. You go to write, you're paying your prime, you go to a recording studio. So I went to a couple and one of them did a fairly good job, but I felt like I couldn't get my message across about the sound that I wanted, and so I ended up working actually with my son in law who's incredible at mixing, and the guy that I write music with, who's an incredible musician, play so many different instruments. I could communicate with him like, no, but this is the sound that I want.

And it's even down to this is the type of piano I want, like for hey, hey, it is a stand up bar piano. It wouldn't be that song without it. Sure, you know, an uncle, there's a mandolin in it is the main instrument that you hear in that that's a very unique sound to it. But I wanted to sort of throw back ring instrument, not just my guitar.

Sure, And so it's been it's been extremely important and to work with people that that get my sound or get what I'm trying to communicate, you know, because yes, the words do one thing, but of course without the melody and the right instruments it can you don't keep the message across. Yep, yep. It's it's so often and I've I've heard a lot of songs where again I always say it was so close, it had potential, but the music just just didn't fit. The words were good, but it was the wrong backdrop.

It was the wrong sound, you know. And again it's not to be critical, but it's just from a from a listener who's supposed to be, you know, join that, and you're writing it to us as the audience listening. I'm like, I just I just feel like it could have went a different way. You know.

Musically, the lyrics are fine, but they just don't seem It's almost like having a jazz song with a rock and roll it just doesn't kind of clashes there. So and again I really say that that's the part I loved about Uncle is the mandolin part. You can hear it in there, like that's the And again, I've played for a while and I'm used to. I mean, I'm a drummer by nature, but I still understand and appreciate the string, so I can hear the play and it's I think that's what really makes it too.

It's the light plucking of it. It's not you know, it's not something overdrawn like guitar could work, but you need just that nice, little, that little light feel, but the sound is still good, so, you know, very important. And I think I was always a big believer. I talked to a lot of musicians when I started playing, guys who've done it.

I'm like, you know, trying to get all kinds of ideas. The one thing I always took into when they say is less is more, so you know, you don't necessarily have to go big and loud and and crazy and all these things. Sometimes the less you and I know a lot of guys will say, well, yeah, but I want all this stuff. When I get in the studio, I want, you know, every possible sound at the soundboard.

And I mixed it with engineers. I've done that kind of stuff, like I, you know, amateurist, but I did it myself. And I'm like, you don't understand the levels you got to go through just to make sure the channels fit. They're too hot, they're too loud, even when you know you said with the bands when we played, like I ran the guitar players through the soundboard, I'm like, you know, you guys, one is too hot, the others too.

You know, it's it's a. Whole thing just to get the basic instrument sounds in and now you're telling me you want this huge fanfare. How am I supposed to do that? Like, you know, these stunt recording softwares only go so far too, like what do you want me to?

And then they look at me and I'm like, listen, I'm doing this because there's no one else in the group that can do it. But I'm like, I'm not a composer by nature, and it's not like my forte so, but I think that's I think it's great, and you have I kind of also say your music's kind of like that that old country store, that old mom and pop shop, you know, And again it's it's I I personally love the classics for that, I'm I'm I think that's a very rare quality that you don't see anymore, especially we know, and it's in our day and age. It's almost like the stores that we see. We don't see these mom and pop places anymore.

That just doesn't survive with economics and things happening. So to see something of quality like that where it's like you're still in business after forty years. You've been around forever and nothing's taking you down. It's truly unique and truly special.

But we were looking forward to it all I want for Christmas. We're gonna look for that. If we can find that, I'm definitely gonna get it. We're gonna play it on the show because it's gonna fit right in with our Christmas holiday theme, which I haven't heard it, but I know we're gonna love it.

I'm not worried about that if it's anything like Uncle, and I'm sure, hey, hey, I'm gonna have to go listen to all of them now, so I'm definitely gonna gonna be plugging. You're like, hey, when's the next one coming out? Because I'm ready to download it, so let me know. And of course I'm sure the viewers will love it too.

We're gonna share that as well. But very very great. I love it. I again, just at the core of your life where you're at to Jimmy, you know, it's fantastic.

And again I mean that in all sincerity. I'm not you know, I think that's wonderful. And I hope even for me again being younger, like that's the kind of the model I can look for myself. Maybe one day, you know, I always tell myself what's my my future gonna look like?

Because I don't know. I'm always interested in different endeavors. But I think it's a great example and hopefully for listeners to hearing this, you know, the big key motto is you're never too old to follow your dream. You can go out there and at least try to live once, because that's all we get.

You know, there's no do over. So you know, again, I've always said it's better to try and fail than never try it all because you don't want to look back and say I could have done that, maybe I should have, maybe I could or whatever happened. I think a lot of people are scared by that today because obviously, whether it's trying to start a business and the economy is not good, or trying to you know, they're just afraid to take chances, you know, which is understandable too, and in that kind of frame too, if you equate the business and the music there, if you look at it as both in that trend, and let's say let's say we were going to try to inspire a young artist there who says, you know, Jimmy, I want to put this out there. I'm trying to go where you're going, but I don't know how to do it?

Do I bother doing it? How would you advise them? Like say, again, they have the passion for it, they want to try it. And again you could even say it's a version of a younger you.

What would you want to inspire by telling this this individual person or persons if they ask you, hey, what's your advice? How do I do this? Well? The first thing that when I did it was my business mind was the first.

Is the passion that drove me, so that creative side, but it was the business part of my mind that said, okay, investigated what does it take? What are the new because I know, you know, being a little bit older, you know, the whole world of the internet, Spotify and YouTube and all that was fairly foreign to me. And so I started researching and how do you get on Spotify? How do you distribute a song?

How do you record a song? How do you So I looked up and studied all the how do you and and you know, and it all kind of feel like, okay, I could do that, you know. And I had the choice of going out in the old style, going out in bars, let's say, and just start playing and hope you get noticed. That did not appeal to me at this stage of the day, you know, and I thought, well, wait a minute, this is pretty cool.

This is when you know technology might benefit me, is that I can put it out there and it can be listened to literally almost anywhere in the world. You know, you can't get such a bigger audience than that. And so so that's what I did. And it's funny, my, you know, when you get these this data back, which I'm a data person, it was you know, your big your most listeners are in this and the countries that listen to it, it's it's hilarious.

Yeah it is. And they're not even in English speaking countries, and I'm like, how is this song even a success? There? You know, it doesn't help when you want to get to that concert level because your your fan base is spread out all over the world.

So you know, in time that hopefully get concentrated and then I'll have enough draw to get a record deal and go out on the road. But that's how I started. I started with the passion and the creativity and writing the songs, and then the analytical side of me stepped in and said but how do you get it out there? You know, big questions an important question yep, yeah, yeah and I and again, I think that's that's the advice I always give.

You know, a lot of young guys playing, like listen, the music itself is yes, it's critical, it's important, and your crafting is there. But marketing advertise, you know, like even for us, you know, we do shows like this, you know, word of mouth we've had. It's funny you mentioned the analytics. We look at it too, and I've seen like the episodes.

We put out. We've been on the air for a while. But some of the countries that I'm like, I didn't think we would reach outside the US. Well I'm seeing we're listening to in countries like Turkey and Bangladesh, and I'm like, and Slovakia and Slavama, like these places like I've heard of.

But I'm like, oh, people, actually they listen to us, like which usually tend to be just goofy on the air, but they listen to us. So I'm like, Okay, So I guess the sky there's really is no limit when you can see, like the world is your oyster. I guess that's saying too but putting it out there, not being afraid. And I think that's just taking the plunge, committing to it.

So you know and understand. And again we've shared this, We've had topics of this discussion, and we believe here too a big advocate for level of success can be measured different ways. You know, there's no there's no right answer, there's no wrong answer. You kind of have to.

My personal thing is start small success, small goals, you know, don't try to go for the whole pie. Try to set realistic small goals to baby step to leap frog up into you know, bigger ones instead of going from here to the big one you got to get. You gotta cover the middle ground too, So you know, I think that's important and key too. And again, if you guys listening to you can see obviously Jimmy is following his love and his dream there and it's I can say again, I don't have a crystal ball, and I don't know for sure, but I would venture to guess at some point, as long as you are continue to be as passionate about your music as you are, and you keep putting it out there, something good is gonna happen more so than it has lately.

I'm willing to bet money out. You're the horse I would bet on for sure in that case. Like I said, you can hear I said it here and remember me if it happens. Hallmark TV special one of All I Want for Christmas could be could be the next track that highlights that mark my words.

I can share that for sure. But such a lot of great stuff. Jimmy, I'm so glad you could come hang out. I hope you want to come back again.

We'd love to have you revisit us here here how. Things are going? Before that we let you go to again. Obviously we can share these, but we always like to have you shameless plug on here.

Where can we find Jimmy Malier's music? Where are someplaces folks can download listen to where? Yeah, give us to us, let us fine, I'm gonna go looking tonight, so let me know where to find you. Yeah.

Absolutely, Spotify YouTube with the big, big, biggest two right, it's all my Amazon, It's on Apple. iHeartRadio just picked it up. Yeah. So I've had some some pretty good success and I always tell people just look under my name because if you look up Toddle songs.

I've never had success to that. I don't know, like as so many songs are close to the same time. Yeah, so if you can learn just about my last name, that's always the biggest obstacle. Jim L L I A.

It should be, it should bear. There's not many Malays out there in the music world. Well, I'll tell you what. So my last name, you know, is pretty long too.

And if I've actually googled myself several times, I do come up, but there's really no cop because there's who many people have that name. It's a Polish name, it's an old can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, when people go to look for me, I always tell them, yeah, just just look up whole ass, whole first name. How are we gonna find.

You'll know it's me, Believe it's it's not. There's no copycats. I'm actually hoping. I'm hoping for copycats one day, just as a form of flattery, you know, that'd be nice.

But maybe some Malier fans, maybe they'll sort a fans page for you. You could have it there. We might just start one just for the fun of it, just to kind of put me out there too. So yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, why not.

You gotta have the doring fans. We're gonna troll you anyway, so but we'll definitely check that out. You guys can find that. We'll get some more links if you want to share them with us, we'll be happy to you.

We can get them from Starlight too. They'll give us some stuff as well. But Jimmy Malier, thank you for joining us here. A new song uncle, And at this point, if you guys didn't find All I Want for Christmas just in time for the holidays, drop it.

Go listen to it now. Put it on your Christmas playlist. Play it while you're baking cookies, while you're setting up the tree, wrapping presents, play it all around and crank it up. Don't worry about the neighbors.

It's you know, just just just crank it up. You know, it's Christmas. It's wholesome of that better than probably your other neighbors play their stuff, so you know, why not why not make it fun for that as well. But we appreciate though, Jimmy, thank you so much for being here as a pleasure.

I'll look forward to seeing you again, hopefully rather sooner than later, but we appreciate it's such a great honored pleasure here. Thank you so much, Thank you very much. It's been so awesome to talk to you. I really appreciate it.

I hope to be back on and who knows, maybe a year from now. You know, I'll be a big success. You know, I'll have you back on here go remember when. Yeah, we'll keep the keep that track.

We save it in the database like here, remember this track. We'll play back the interview I said we knew you when before he was famous. Then there you're gonna you know what, there's your Netflix special right there. Yeah, and again we don't have to be on, but if we would get like a small like a little tiny note motion in it happ be great or not mentioned there, that's great.

But you know, I'm not shameless plugging, but I am, so I just have to put it out there. So but thank you very much though to you Jimmy. Again, I know it's a little bit past, but we hope your Thanksgiving is wonderful, you have a great time with family, but we can say happy Holidays, Merry Christmas to you as well. Will definitely be in touch and we will get you back on the sooner side too, and best of luck even after Christmas with your endeavors, with the tracks you come out.

We're going to be following closely, so excited to see what comes out next. But this has been a great interview. Ladies and gentlemen. Jimmy Mollier check him out there wherever you can find your music there again, learn to spell the name right.

If you get it right, you'll find it. We will help you. We're going to advertise it, so if you get it wrong, well that's your own fault. But we're just saying just to put it out there.

So Jimmy, thank you so much. Have a wonderful rest of your evening. We'll be in touch and take. Care very much.

You're very welcome. We'll get you back sin take care all right, you guys. This has been another wonderful, wonderful episode. We are so thankful you tuned in for this.

I hopefull you guys enjoy that plenty more to come. More exciting things are going to happen. We hope that you will stay tuned for that as well, and we are going to continue to play he Jimmy song. Uncle will play it throughout the next few episodes we got coming up, so we hope you look forward to that.

We will see you tomorrow night, Saturday night, November thirtieth, it's Big Hoss's birthday bash. Hope you guys can join us live. We are excited to do that for him. The kick off the end of the month and then our Christmas holiday episodes begin, which we will definitely want you guys to be around for.

You don't want to miss it. All the fun, all the trimmings, the tree, the presence, the snow, the morkage ass for It's fantastic, It's wonderful. So we'll see you guys though tomorrow night. Thank you as always for joining us.

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