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But it's gonna be really exciting for you guys. It's been a minute, it's been a little while, but we finally have the stars have lined up, schedule has worked out. He's not new, he's been here before. If you're newer though, you might not know him, but well let's welcome back to the table.
You all know him and love him. Our good friend from Impulse Martial Arts, Ramsey Veach Ramsey, good evening, Thank you for being here. Oh justin, thank you very much for having me again. Of course, it's been a long time coming.
We've been wanting to do this and we definitely have a I said the Ramsey off camera here off the offline, we were gonna do this. We have a doozy for an episode tonight which we're gonna give you those juicy details in a second, but just want to give you guys a couple quick updates, just for reminders. We're gonna do this too. Check out if you missed it the past episode we did.
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Let's jump in here. So this is gonna be a fun topic tonight. Why is that, you might ask? Well, thank you for asking, I'm gonna tell you that I thought about this.
I actually had an idea for this next episode, but most recently, probably within gosh, maybe the last one. Did you write that or talk about that? Probably the last month or so. So Ramsey kind of set the world ablaze a little bit, or at least in our little martial arts community, of some implementing changes that he discovered, which we're gonna pick his brain because we're curious to hear.
And again I've heard a lot of this, but for you guys to get some tips and tricks and wisdom on insights, we want to pick this apart a little deeper. So now some of you might train before, maybe you haven't trained. So in a lot of regular martial arts they have what's known as kata, which kadas are and most of you guys probably have watched Cobra kai. You're probably familiar with that anyway.
But just to put it in short, our pre meditated, predetermined movements you can do single person, which by yourself or sometimes in certain arts with partners you can train, but it's sort of almost like I guess you could say, choreographed and almost like dances in a way, like when you kind of preset everything there, and so Ramsey had shared recently, and we're gonna we're gonna set the stage here and let Ramsey take it from there then, because I want to I want to pose this question too that get started, but I had some thoughts about why KADA does not seem to be quite as important. What I know, you're probably all sitting there going wait before, don't turn it off, don't turn the episode off. Hear it out. We want to.
We want to investigate. That's part of the job here. We want to find out why so, but that started a lot of controversy within our own group, and so for this episode, I wanted to put it out there and let Ramsey try to explain yourself. Explain yourself, sir, defend yourself here, and if there's any hate comments, I'll give you his address and email and all that stuff and your phone number later if you want to call and leave hate comments.
So yeah, so let's let's start off with this. Let's go here, and now again I'm gonna pretend like I'm just setting this for as an average listener that was not there and been part of this conversation. So first of all, to start this off, Ramsey, how did you come up with this idea which led to you the blog which I will share later on. We're going to put that in the link for that on the Impulse website if you guys want to read it for yourself.
How did you begin to contemplate, think about, translate and determine this theory about what you have about kada and what exactly that is? Would you like to share with everybody? Sure, so you know most of this is on the blog, but I'm going to give you a good summary throughout this podcast. Essentially, you know, I've been doing martial arts for over twenty years, and you know I've I've done many kada's.
I've learned old time kadas from God knows where they come from, and I've learned kada's made up by newer teachers. And I've always been exposed to kada via martial arts books or when I was a kid, TV all that kod stuff, yep. And so I looked into it more and I just I started understand. I started contemplating how important is kada to me as a martial artist, how is it to me as as a skilled developer?
And what is what is the ultimate purpose of kada. So the first thing I did was just kind of look into it to the extent of like, well, well, where's kada come from? And although I knew I knew where it came from, I didn't really know. So I always do my homework before I just start making decisions, right, Yeah, So, so I looked into it, and the majority of it, you know, stems from Eastern Asia, you know, Southeast Asia, China, Japan, all that stuff, right, And if you notice, there's not a lot of kadas from other parts of the world, from like you know, Western boxing to fencing to stuff like that, at least as far as I know, there aren't kadas involved with that.
So so I really just took an interpersonal look at it and said, well, you know what, I have dozens of kadas. I've learned empty hand kadas, I've learned weapons kadas and all that good stuff. But what did I get out of it? And ultimately, spoiler alert, I felt like I didn't get as much as I could have at had I used the time and energy and resources that it took to remember and to practice those kadas and just practiced the principles and the information you're supposed to learn from kadas in regular class and get that directly, and get that directly translated to me from the teacher.
And if anybody knows what kada is personally because they've learned it, or they have a teacher that uses it for training, then they'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Now, I am not the voice of martial arts, and I study martial arts that have no kadas, and I studyed martial arts that do have kadas. So so I just kind of gathered this evidence for myself and made this decision that ultimately I'd rather just learn the information that's within a kata and then I go and then and then just be done with it. That way.
Essentially, we do it all the time anyways. We just we just don't I don't think I don't think anybody realizes it. It's not as not as fixated as like when you're saying, okay, here we go step one, step two steps through. You're just naturally like moving in and doing stuff without calculating the moves, and you know, kind of like I know we talked recently too about we did open like the practice of you know, just practice movement and doing things which essentially could be kada base.
There's just no like you have to move this way that it was, you know, move freely and flow and you know, don't necessarily go super fast, but move what's comfortable. So you kind of see where that kind of does translate to more of the less choreographed version to more practicals of focus on just feeling comfortable moving and you know, not necessarily step by step guys of I have to I have to make this move here. If I mess up this step, this step is off. I skip step two and four, you know that sort of thing.
So that that does make sense from that standpoint if you look at. It, right, So, I mean so so so I yeah, and I and I kind of went into well what makes up a kata? And why do people why do people cherish them so much? Why do people I use the I equate them to a gospel.
Right, people learn religion and they say, oh, this is the gospel, meaning I'm going to follow everything that's in it. Right, And some people look at instructors, some people look at kadas. Some people look at martial arts as if they're the gospel of martial arts world. And and I promise you, no martial artists, no, no writings, no nothing, gospel.
They can and will change and they should change. They should they should be evolutionary definitely. Yeah. So so I write, I write intensely about a lot of this stuff so that everybody can have the different viewpoints.
It's not as it's not a simple conversation of hey does kada? Do you like kada? Do you feel like you're learning anything from it? Yes?
Okay, why that's that's a pretty quick conversation. But then when you say no, they're gonna you know, people are gonna ask, well, why, and now you have to go into this whole long list. And that's what I did. Okay.
I explain myself and I explain the the concept of kada as I see it. And if you read this blog you will see it's not a short read. It's make sure you have a cup of coffee, sit back, and make sure you have a good chunk of time to read it. So I can definitely test that.
Yeah, if you want to, if you want to learn a view point on kada that you might not have ever heard before, then then you want to read the whole thing, because it's it's never just it's not just black and white, it's there's a lot of gray. And one of the first things I say in the beginning is, you know, this is my interpretation and my point on Kada and I am I am here to give you as much evidence and opinion as possible, and you guys can make your own decision. I don't care. I don't care if you want to do kada.
Yeah, if you think Kada is the best thing in the world, by all means, go for it. I do not care. I'm not going to disrespect you as a martial artist. I'm totally fine with it.
I'm just letting you guys know that I've I've done the research, I've done the time. I've been doing this for a long time, and I see less benefit in it than it's known for him. Right. So so with that said, I I would love without talking about the entire blog on this and wasting her time too much.
Some of the prime points are and and a lot of this came up, by the way, because you asked about the origin of why I start thinking and play. You know, I had, I had, I had talked I had I always you know, I always watched I live martial arts. I'm always watching martial arts online and stuff, and somebody was doing a kata I think I had comments on it, and then I got some rebuttal to it, so so, and I just started thinking like, why do these people freaking care so much? Why is it like you know?
And then they start getting like narrow minded and well this and that and well you know, you know, well what what style do you do? Like people care too much much about all this stuff as if as if it matters, okay, and so I so that I really started to deep dive and saying like, you know what, this doesn't matter, right, and and here's some of the main points without having in front of me anymore, but I have here. So just no, no, no, I definitely don't. I definitely don't.
Uh. You know, when somebody says they do kata, I go great, But then I say, well, well, which coddas do you do? Oh? Well, you know in the magical sword arts that we do, right, you know, like iido or kendo or whatever whatever people want to do, with the samurai sword from Japan Ido being the most notable one.
If somebody wants to do aido, there's there's like twelve kadas that they have to do. It's like it's like there's like twelve forms that are like official. Maybe there's more, maybe there's less. I don't know.
Right then, then what you should be doing is questioning, okay, well, who determined that these twelve kadas are quote unquote the gospel? Who determined which ones were there more than twelve codas in the beginning? Who made up the kadas? At what point were they all made up at the same time, at the same person.
Were they made up by different people? Who were the judges? Who were the judges that allowed and kind of elected these kadas to become the gospel? And do carried on it has to be done exactly, so forth and so on.
Who who makes all these decisions over the past you know, four or five, six, one thousand years? Who does that? Right? And so when we look at the credibility of things, just like in my blogs about ranking systems and lineage, when you really to sit down and think about it, what's important, where it came from or what it is you know, and you know, nobody goes to a car lot and buys a car and says, but what country was it made in?
Okay, because because you know if you care about what country it came in, right, you're you're you're probably against that country for whatever reason. Okay, Right, but I promise you you're not going. If you're going to a Mercedes car lot, you already know that they come from freaking Germany or wherever they Right, if you're into a hundred parking lot, you already know that they're coming from Korea. Nobody, nobody, nobody really cares.
They really just care about the car. Otherwise they wouldn't be they wanted American makers, they would go to they would they would go to get a Ford or Chevy, as simple as that. Well, what matters is the car. They care about the car quality.
Okay, you put out poor quality of a car from Japan or Australia or Germany, right, then they're not gonna want it anymore. Okay. So we have this mentality of Japan being you know, or the or the you know, the Eastern martial arts being so particular and and just just perfect for some I don't know, for some reason. I guess that's the the energy you get and and realistically, like it's not it's not all that it's cracked up to me it's just you're just martial arts.
It's punching, kicking, grappling, it's it is what it is. Yeah, that's where a lot of them really stem from. Great, historically awesome, you know, no, but really what's more important the information. So if you if you met me on the street, he said, Ramsey, teach me everything you know about martial arts.
And I did, right, And then at the very end, I say, oh, by the way, these are all Japanese martial arts. Are you gonna go? Oh, I can't believe it. I don't want to do the Japanese martial arts.
Those are stupid. No, You're not gonna do that, right, because the information is way more important than where than where it came from. Of course, naturally, as long as I'm giving you subjectively and objectively quality information, right, then of course, then of course it matters. But again, even if you're if you're going to Japan and you're getting information but it's not good then it you know, then then you don't think you'll go to Japan anymore for for information you might become biased.
So the history of it, the history of it, and the context is is the super super in what's the non incredible. I don't even know what the word is horrible English, but yeah, it's I don't want to say incredible because it's not incredible anyways, you can't. It's it's hard to justify where these came from. And at what point in time do we stop making more katas and say, you know what, these are the only twelve we need.
Right? So in the end you're like, okay, so well I have these twelve kada is fantastic, right, what are there anymore? Well? No, that's it, You're done.
Well why not you're telling me these twelve codas teach you everything you need to know about the martial arts. I bet not. I've learned. I've learned kadas that aren't in the the mainstream martial arts, okay, meaning meaning like like there's like a there's specific martial arts that are like like Coda kan and ishan ru and you know that the big names, right, the ones that have really made their mark on Japanese or you know, Eastern martial arts, you know, Wing Chung stuff like that.
But but what about what about me learning a martial art kata from a quote unquote samurai family from a different island, from a different time period. And I say, you know, what do you guys know kada mawari? I don't know. I'm just making stuff up, right, And they're gonna be like, no, well it comes from the Yomata family from Okinawa circa fifteen fifty six.
Oh, that's a bunch of crap yo blah blah blah. Right, and now you're gonna have people. Now you're gonna have people going well, if I never heard of it, and if it's not part of these mainstreams, then it's not valid. It's also an argument you get.
So now people are fighting over validity of kadas, and I'm like, this is absolutely ridiculous, Like why why do people waste their time? If I give you a kada, I don't care if I made it up or some guy made it up a thousand years ago. What does it matter? If thea kada teaches you something, that's all that matters.
Right. Then I looked into well what are the kada teach you? And there's a whole bunch of stuff. Right.
People are like, well, they're all these hidden techniques. There's these it's to teach you good form and you have to practice it perfectly and it's to pass down the martial art and immortalize it because they have reading and writing back then. Because they were illiterate, they had to pass it down through song and dance essentially. And I called bullshit on that.
I call complete bullshit on that, because while while they they may right, I wasn't alive in sixteen hundred, I have no idea what they did. While they While some some people may have used kata to pass down a martial art, there's there's no kada or sets of kadas in any martial art that can possibly or that do currently that I'm aware of, encompass every single principle and concept and technique that would that could occur. Here's an example in jiu jitsu. Right, just in classical Japanese jiu jitsu.
I have a list of just like one hundred and twenty five basic technique right, not even the variations of such, just basic everyday techniques. Right throws and yeah throws and joint locks, you know, holds and all that stuff, right positions, all this just the super standardized basic stuff that you need to build to build your repertoire. And you can do all the karate cod or all the whatever kada you want. I guarantee you're not going to find these techniques in there, right, And then you get the argument of well, that's because they're hidden, And then I go, well, okay, that's fine.
This is what really kissed me off. This is kind of like this was kind of like the straw that bent on me and I can't set out my drink, right. And I've been hearing this since day one. Hidden techniques, hidden techniques, they're there, you just have to find them.
You have to discover them. We have to show them to you, right, And and then you actually see people actually doing it today. All right. I get across my feed all the time and people are like, oh, look look at this karate kata, and then below they'll show a video of a jiu jitsu throw or a judo throw right that may look similar.
And that's the problem. It doesn't. Right. So if you were going to pass down information about a martial art, and so I would say, hey, look, here's here's a book with everything you need to know about martial arts, just for example, right, or here, even better, how about this, here's a video of everything you need to know about martial arts.
And all you got to do is just study it and practice it and do it. You'll do it with a partner or everything you'll learn. You'll learn everything you need to know. You don't even need me, right, right, that's what they were doing.
They were teaching the kadas and then boom, right, But then I gave it to you, but the words were all scrambled. Right, no, no, no, trust it. It's in there. It's in there.
You just have to do. You have to find it, you have to decode it. Right now, you have to play anagram with it, right, So so I'm gonna teach you how do anagram so you can figure it out, right, So when it comes down to it, that's why I said, instead of me getting a kada day one and then five years later figuring it out understanding it, right, And some people say, I'm still figuring this out till today. I've been doing enough for thirty years, right, I'm like, you've been wasting your time.
So instead you could I could do a kada for my students. Right here you go. It's five or six moves, it's ten moves, whatever it is, right, And but here's the possible scenario for each one. Right, Look, maybe the person is doing this or this or this.
So we respond like this, here's the context of the kada as I view it, Okay, and then I pass it down to my students. What do you think they're gonna do it? They're gonna give that same context to somebody else, right, Eventually, eventually we have this whisper down the alley effect. And over four hundred years, do you think that do you really think that kada is the same.
Yeah? Do you think it's either performed the same or do you even think it was? Uh, it's being translated the same. Especially with martial arts world today, we're exposed to everything.
There's no more secrets. So yeah, that's yeah exactly. And with every with every martial arts, everybody knows a lot of everything. Nobody's just you know, one master, one martial everybody knows.
Everybody has access to everything. Right, so we're seeing this stuff so much differently. And but but but the idiocracy that somebody can say, hey, I learned, I learned a kada that's four hundred years old. Well, proved to me that dak kata is exactly the way it was four hundred years ago.
Yeah, and not to mention I'm a martial artist. I've made up my own coddas before, right, and I can touch on that a little bit later. Right, Does that mean my codas are invalid because they weren't made four hundred years ago? At what point in time?
At what point in time are people not allowed to make kadas anymore for them to be legitimate? Right? So if I made a pi kada, right, and let's just pretend I'm really really good at what I do, who's to say that that kada is not worth jack? When I see a lot of kadas that aren't worth jack?
And I promise you right right, kadas have their place, but they're not, but they're they're not the gospel. And instead of instead of going over the kada, figuring things out and waiting for somebody to give you answers and all that stuff, right, what you should be doing is saying, hey, look we're going to go over this kada today, boo boom boom, right that the students can write it down and memorize it all they want, right, Okay, And then and then you can say, look, here's what we're learning from a kada. Here are some points and principles that I want to point out that way when you are practicing it. If you decide to practice this, you know what you're doing, so you can do them properly.
And that's what pisses me off about kada is with hidden techniques and with techniques that can be used for multiple things. Right, you know, the arm punches and then it waves in a circle, and then it kind of does another big wave over the head and then you lift the foot. I don't know, I'm just making stuff up, right, But then you put that next to it, like if you if you come to the the dojo and we do a jiu jitsu throw, right, they look nothing the same, right, not even close. So so my argument is, well, it's good for punching and kicking.
Those look really good in kada's right, So you can learn punching kick really well in the kada, right, But when it comes to throws and grappling and response times and distancing and all that stuff, your works to use your imagination and not to mention because you're doing the kada so quote unquote properly, you're not doing it. You're not doing the techniques properly. So if you've ever done a shoulder throw ip bon snaga. You're one on shoulder throw throw of any sort, you'll see that no kadas do them exactly the way you're supposed to, because if you do them, then the way the kada says, I guarantee you it will not work.
And I'm willing to prove that to anybody who wants to come on out and try it. Right, if you're not doing it, if you're not doing a technique the way it's meant to be done in real time, even if you're doing it to the air, then you're not practicing and you're not learning anything, and you're just playing pretend and that's no good, and that's no good. And I'm not here to dog people, right, I'm just saying how it is you are literally playing pretend instead instead of punching the air and blocking the air and using your imagination, which again you could be a fit from it, all right, But I'm talking like fitness and strength and endurance. Right, you can get benefit out of fighting the air.
But not much, not so much of a regular opponent, Like it's not going to be practical, like a memory of you know, what do you do if you have like a confrontation, Like that's good for the exercise, but it's different when you have like the moving target scenario or there's somebody there, like there's that's a totally different. Absolutely, yeah, you do. Like so so if you do a if you had if you picked two people, like a set of twins, right, if you took a set of twins who are both in the martial arts, and I said, look, you like one twin, twin number one, he does a He does a kada for a whole year, that's all. He does, just one kada for a whole year.
Then the other guy spars with somebody for a whole year. Right, And then those two twins got into a ring. Who do you think is gonna win? I guarantee you it's not going to be mister Kata.
And that kind of validates my whole point. Right, Uh, you mean you can learn, but not as well as if you spent your time elsewhere. Kada is purely, purely supplemental and it and I think if you're going to do kada, you should be doing it later in your training, not earlier, because you need that mental focus. You need that all the memorization you have to do right, all those tweakings and stuff.
You can do that in class during regular sessions. Right, Hey, Glass, today we're going to do this. You can just give them a part of the kada. Right, let's really get this down because I want to show you why and how these operate in real time and practicality and this that right, and make the class focused on those points, you know, instead of just giving them this open book that's with scrambled letters and they don't really know.
They don't know what they're they're not they don't know what they're doing. They just know that they're doing it, right, But they don't know what they're doing. They have not any of it. It's kind of like, and I know, one of the other points that you the bullet points we can add in there.
Part of this was and you talk about the lineage of the kada, the kadas themselves, especially in the twenty first century, saying we talked this is one of the things we talked about too, was like, for example, defense against sword attacks, okay, which obviously during the Samurai era during the feudal times in Japan was practical then, but that was back into sixteen hundreds. Obviously, especially in our western culture in the US, how many times do we get attacked by a sword there? So you know the relevancy too, of there's no practical sense of these were designed for a different era that does not exist anymore. So you could also say for lack of better terments, no disrespect to them, but they don't really make much sense.
And again we don't even live in the Orient. We're living in wet in the West, which we don't see that anyway, So there's like that sense of doesn't really hold any truth to what you could potentially be dealing with on the street like today. Right, the context of our times is you know, it's important. And I speak to I speak to context because obviously the the when some of these kadas were made up, they're made up in a time where where swords ring supreme, right, there weren't firearms, There wasn't there wasn't the martial arts and and and knowledge that we have today around the world.
Right, Uh, you know, there were there were more chances of being caught in a battlefield. Right, So so katas make more sense because you know, because because they maybe they wanted to learn certain things whatever, right, but especially today, like I mean, I just I just I don't see it as a good use of the time. When it comes to training practical skills, you have to focus, It's right. It's only good for people who want to work on memorizing something or focusing on stamina and stuff.
Right, everything you can learn in kada, you can learn with a partner, okay. But everything you learn with a partner you can't learn from kada. So I'd rather just from a partner. And if you don't have and if you don't have a partner, that's fine, do certain movements.
Right, So if you saw me do a kada that had punches, blocks and throws, it's gonna look a lot different than these karate coudas you see today, Okay. And then when you look at when you look at samurai sword kadas from i ido or whatever. Right, those twelve kadas are talking about, right, they are so lame. And I say that, I say that with the utmost enthusiasm.
They're so lame. They're like one or two moves each they, you know. And I'm goin trying not to disrespect I ido practitioners because they do it for different reason. They're not doing it for practicality, that's for sure.
But but it's far from practical, far from practical, and and the and the audacity some of these people have. Oh we did lose. I was trying to time it. So let's let applause there really quick.
Uh that again, that's the unfortunate thing is we are so hopefully one day we are going to uh get this adjusted. Let's let Ramsey know here where did he go? That's when I message him? Uh uh huh mm hmmm.
Uh but yeah, hopefully, well we'll adjust that one day. But some good information so far for you guys. We're going to dive into this more a bit. In a little bit, we'll get Ramsey back in.
We're gonna get recalibrated, re situated, I will say, just from what we've been talking about so far. And again, you guys have questions to you, by all means reach out let us know. We can also put you in touch and you can check things out. We are gonna link the blog, the specific blog that Ramsey is referring to and talking about.
We will tag that in the episode itself, will add that like when we have it up on the YouTube channel, we can put that there as well. You guys can read it for yourselves, formulate your own opinions, if you guys train regularly and if you you know, have been doing hot as. And again we're not saying it's to be offensive to people, and it's just some ideas to think about because I think a lot of times, like Ramsey said, which is a good point, and I wanted to mention that as well, the focal and the focus is entirely different. People have different reasonings and different excuses for why they think about or don't think about certain things.
So we're just kind of picking it apart to help you guys challenge yourselves to be better well rounded martial artists and to just question things in general, to say does this make sense, is it practical? Is it not? You have to determine that for yourself. So that's kind of what we're diving into.
But we're gonna get into plenty more of that in just a moment. I hope you guys are enjoying this, and again, this is great stuff. This is a perfect topic. There some food for thought, and hopefully it'll give you guys an opportunity to explore and share this information with others.
It's very important, as we said, sharing the martial arts training and learning that is vitally important that we pass it along for future generations, and that we try to keep these alive and show the importance of that there as well. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna play a little commercial break.
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But we have our special guest joining us, an old friend who hasn't been on for a while. We're glad to have him back. Ramsey of Beach of Impulse Martial Arts. Tonight's topic we are talking about is Kata.
Ramsey is sharing some insights about some things that he's the overed. We're delving into that a little bit and trying to again just give some bullet points and things, not necessarily anything that's verbat him by the Gospel that you can take his word for it, as he said earlier, but we're just kind of covering a bunch of things. Let's see, I think we got it. I was trying to send it, but there we go.
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So we're kind of talking about this, and I kind of want to just look at us in a little bit more l like if you want to share some more stuff here. But and I'm trying to think how to phrase this question specifically because we kind of touched a little bit about it. But maybe maybe the question to ask is this to kind of elaborate a little bit more in your professional opinion. And again we say how there's a lot of there's different arts that doocus on using kadas and it seems to be a strong focal point for training curriculum for whatever reason.
And what do you think, if you've given any thought to this, why do you think there are some schools or some systems out there that really push the kada train it so hard? No, I mean, obviously there's the easy one. It's tradition, they got to do that. But do you personally think that there's a lot of systems or arts that they feel like the kada really is beneficial as opposed to like we talk about practically, like working the techniques, working the stuff that really is the meat of the curricula, if you will, what are some of those things that you maybe you've encountered, I'm not sure, but what do you feel like why there's some places that do push kadas and they try to emphasize it's so important to teach students.
Right, that's a great question, and I'm going to answer it with the evolution of that is of martial arts. Mean, yeah, the martial arts are meant to evolve. As long as humans have been fighting, They've been developing martial skills that can be used to subdue or kill, or or handle or injure or whatever, right to win fights to protect themselves. At what point in time do we turn these into the term martial arts?
Well, whenever they wanted to. I don't know. Nobody really knows. Nobody really really care, right, Yeah, it's just semantic.
Nobody really cares, right, But at one point in time, somebody saw it as beneficial. And some people they just believe and they follow everything that they're taught and they say, you know what, my teacher is so good. I respect my teacher. They're very skillful and knowledgeable in everything.
If I want to learn what they learned, I should learn what they learned. That's their theory, that's what they think. I'm going to relate this, you know, and just to throw it out there, None of this is meant to sway anybody one way or another. I don't care if you do katda.
I don't care if you don't do kada. All I'm saying is that here's information, here's a different perspective potentially, and if and if you want to make your own decision, great, If you want to keep doing them, that's fine. All I'm saying is that if you if you do them differently, if you if you focus on them differently, you'll learn better, and you'll learn faster, and you'll learn and you'll just be more skillful and you would get better attributes overall. That's my professional opinion.
So do I think that you know so so? Relating its religion? Right? Some people are born into religion and until they die, they're just obsessed with that religion, right because they're just surrounded by it and they just honestly believe that that is the religion that should be.
That's all they know too, that's all they've learned and experienced it. Yeah. So, so now with the modern age, it's less and less likely that if you put your child into a world of let's say Christianity, that they might change their mind as they grow right, They're going to be exposed to atheism, They're going to be exposed to viewpoints of other many other religions. Even within their own basis of Christianity, They're going to come across different viewpoints of that same religion, and they're going to have to go through that past.
And that's what I do as a martial artist. You know, I learned from a specific teacher in a specific style, and a in a specific culture, if you will. But I but I outgrew my instructor. I outgrew that culture.
Because I'm not a huge fan of anybody saying we do this just because that's the way we've always done done it right. If we've always if everybody always did that with everything they did in life, we can still be living in the fricking fourteen hundred, you know what I mean. Anytime you answer, anytime you answer a question, well, that's just the way it is, that's just the way we do it. Shut up.
You don't know, Jack exactly. If you can't, if you can't evolve a martial art make it your own, if you can't add to it, if you can't, if you can't, if you're afraid to take away, right. If you're not If you're not afraid to give, but you're afraid to take away, right, then that just means you're not looking at everything properly, not everything we do today. Just because somebody did in the past and it worked for them doesn't mean it's beneficial, right, It doesn't mean it made an impact.
Uh. You know, There's there's drills I see people doing in martial arts that are very highly respected, and I just personally think that it's it's it's in the there are two person cottage to be specific, and they're just they're just things that I'm like, well, while you can definitely gain skills and attributes in one area, it's going to hurt you in another area, you know. So it's a balance. It's a balance.
So now, in my in my at my current point in my life in training, that's not something I want to learn because I think it would be more I think it would be more detrimental than beneficial to my style, to my to what I'm trying to do goal wise. And it's a shame too, because I'd like to learn it. It's flashy, it's cool, it's quick, and I think I can develop. But then I'm going to get locked in.
Then I'm going to get locked into their style more and and it's going to probably disrupt what I have going now. Not that I'm the best, ever, it has nothing to. Do with that. It's just I like what I do now, and I want to continue doing what I do and expand from that.
So instead of learning the martial arts, I'm going to take little bits from it that I think might be helpful. Right, And that's that's what Ruth really did, and he was made he was made famous for essentially was the development of g Kundo, which was to him, the best of all the martial arts that worked for him for the most part that he, you know, transposed down to his student tree and say, hey, look, guys, like these are the concepts. Here's a whole bunch of stuff. But even even the stuff that he teaches, if he was alive today, he'd still say, you know what, I don't care what I taught you.
Right, if it doesn't work for you, don't do it, do this and do something else instead. Right, and you're in. And when when a lot of other martial arts teachers they're like, no, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do it this way and this how, because if you don't, you're not going to be good.
That's you know, And that's just just just not the way that I operate. So that's why I disagree with that. So, but why they do it, They just they want to stick with the tradition. They want to stick with teaching people what they know.
Now. When I when I started formulating my and emulating certain ranking structures and curriculums off of what I was kind of raised on, I came across the same predicament saying, well, you know what, I want to test my students, but I don't want to test them under the same curriculum as I was tested because the way I was tested, I learned a lot of good, youthful stuff later in my training when I should have been learning it earlier. And so what I told my students literally just last week, I said, hey, look, won't you guys know, the later you get in my curriculum, Okay, Japanese jiu jitsu curriculum, the less useful and the less relevant and the less frequency these techniques are going to be for you. Okay, They're they're very they're highly circumstantial or very scenario based or whatever.
You're not gonna that's why I said, that's why you don't see me doing a lot of moves that you don't recognize, because the I put all the most accessible, easier things down in the bottom. And I said, so as you, as you go through the ranks and earn skills and and and and get these attributes going and all these techniques, blah blah blah, right, you're gonna find You're going to find that you're still resorting to the most basic white belt and blue belt techniques because those are the ones that are going to pop on the best and easiest and most effective. And then you're gonna want Then you're gonna understand exactly what I just told you right now, absolutely so so so I'm not afraid to change the structure. Right, it was a huge decision for me to tell my students I'm going to take I'm gonna take kadas out of sword class.
I want to take kadas away from my aikido class. Right. If I had tempo karate kadas, I would have taken those out too, And and you know, some people didn't like it, and that's that's totally fine. But then I asked, well, you know, you don't you want to do kada's for the weapons classes, but why don't you want to do kada's for the empty hand karate classes?
Right? You just kind of you just kind of you just kind of get a blank stare. Right. Well, you know, it's it's like, well, if you think odda is good, then it should be good all the way around, and we should learn kada in every single martial art and we should start developing some kada.
Is that good? So so you know, you know, so I chose not to do it, but I still want to teach the certain kadas because I learned them and I think some of them are really cool from a sexual standpoint. Right, there's some cool katas that I have access to that I'm like, this is really cool. Right, it's not relevant today, Okay, but it's it's really And I point a couple of them out in the in the blog, but they're they're just they're just cool.
You know, pick up a book read about them and understand the contexts of the times in which they were made and developed, and then you get then you get an understanding of the history a little bit. But me, I am not a history buff. I do not care what the samurai went through four hundred years ago. I don't care.
I think it's cool some of the things that they developed, and I appreciate and all that stuff, But I just I'm not a history buff. I don't care where this came from as much. You know, uh and and and along those lines. Again, it's been touched by man so much that I don't know what's accurate and what's not.
Well, that's the. Probably, and there's no way of telling you. If miamat if Miamoto Musashi wrote down and signed a book that says these are my codas that I'm crazy, right, all right, right, then I'd be like, oh, these are cool, right, But he's probably one of those people that probably didn't even do money catta. You know, he was a fighter.
He had he had he had dozens and dozens of battles in his name, right, that was his practice. I don't know, right, you know, and uh oh, but you did ask me, well, when does kada actually work? Right? When should we do kata?
And actually, if so, my guidelines for kada are this, If you're going to practice kada, mm hmm, it's important that we identify and practice exactly what we need to practice right and what we're trying to learn, not just doing motions. If you're just going through motions, you're doing martial arts wrong. You need to know exactly if I'm going to throw this punch and have a footwork and I'm going to have a fist this direction, and I'm going to have my arm locked out or not locked out, I'm going to grab if I'm going to put my foot here and not here, if I'm gonna be turned this way and not this way, if I'm going to be this close or not, if I'm gonna evade, if I'm going to do anything, you need to you need to understand why you're doing it exactly so that when you're doing it, you can identify and you can reinforce in your mind and say, oh, okay, right.
And then not everybody's going to get everything right, not all, not in one drill, but a little by little. If I keep explaining it, doing it over and over again, just like inn Akada, then then then you're going to pick up on it eventually. And then sometimes I'll be like, you know, I'll just wait for the person to get hit and and saying that's why we move right, or I'll wait for them to get or I'll stop them mid movement and I'll say, you know, Jackie push push Mic over and uh. And then Jackie pushes Mic over with ease right, and I say, you see, this is why we put our foot here and not here.
Okay, So we identify those things. But if you're doing a kada, you never get that. You tell them why they're putting their foot there, or you tell them to put their foot there, but you don't tell them why, and they can't experience in real time. But tactile feedback what happens if you don't and all of the news that come with it, and how do we adjust?
So, so any kind of kada, make sure you know exactly what you're doing and why, what the scenario is. Imagine it. If you can't imagine it, then you're not doing anything for you if you're doing it by yourself and uh, and you need to pressure test each sense of the movements and the kadas that you're doing. So if you're doing two person kata, right, something pre arranged okay, today, you know partner's gonna push, I'm gonna move that to the side.
I'm gonna block, I'm gonna do this move right. Then have them try to actually push, try to have them follow up with something right, so you can verify. Yeah, so you can kind of explore and verify the weaknesses and the nuances of what's going on. Why it didn't work, what maybe you could change you think about it.
Right, or why it did work. You can become because if you know it works, you can become more confident. You're not going to get that from a kada. You can you're gonna get You're gonna get uh what's the word called.
You're gonna get a long kind of confidence you're gonna get fromagnet. You're not gonna and you're not gonna know Like it's almost like repetitive to where you're just you're doing You're going through the motions, you're just doing it right. So I so when I when I teach gun stuff, when I teach gun courses, I I kind of emphasize the need to practice this stuff. Yeah, just by yourself, right.
But I tell people, look, if you're gonna practice your drawing, right, I want you to do this this, I want you to do all this stuff exactly kind of like a cut of format, right, you know, and I want you to do X, Y and Z right, But just doing it at home by yourself and imagining attacker at your door is one thing. Okay, having somebody actually with you to pop out or to charge you, or to dynamically move now getting your gun on target in a timely manner like with the tooler drill, the twenty one foot rule, you're you're now, you're now changing the element of the of the whole situation, and so so you have to Your imagination can only do so much. So having a real partner with you is vital to learning for sure as factor. And it really it puts time sensitivity of oh, like oh ship moment, this is happening, like you know now, you can't just imagine it's going on, right, So.
So ideal, you know. So, And if you're not going to do it with a person because you don't have the resources or whatever, that's fine. But if you're gonna do anything with a Kada write anything Kada esque, which I still advocate for, you know, stand there and say you know what, I'm gonna draw my sword or I'm gonna draw my gun. I'm going to do.
I'm gonna turn to the left, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a couple of shifts. I'm gonna draw my sword, my gun, whatever it is, right, and I'm going to make sure that when I draw it, it's because I'm doing this or it's because of this stimuli. If I'm drawing my gun, it's because of this stimuli, it's because right. And then, so give yourself a game plan, give yourself a scenario so you know exactly what the bunk guy is, exactly what's going on, so you can visualize it and treat it like a real situation that is going to be vital to how you do it.
The problem with regular kadas in most dojo's is they don't teach you any of that in the beginning, and they and they they work on it later. Oh, today we're going to go over and we're going to discuss kata. I've had this kata for three years, senseay, and I'm just learning this crap now. That would piss me off.
Right, So, so here's here's an example of good kata. Right, swat teams, seal teams. When you know they they perform kada's right. Here's how they do it when they're going to clear a room.
Let's say there's four people. They're going to clear a room. They're going room to room. They're going to be clearing.
Well, they practice that, right, they practice that number one, Number one opens the door, and number two charges in. He looks at one specific corner, right, he has one area to sweep. The person behind him brings up his gun. He is one area to sweep.
The last person in, you know, w one area to sweep, and they all have to sweep consistently. They all have to be in their own zones. They all have to do their specific thing, just like a kata, and if they don't during training, they either shoot a partner or they get shot by a perpetrator. So you have to trust each other.
That's kind of the that's kind of the biggest thing with SWAT and anybody who any teams that clear rooms and compounds and stuff like that, right, anybody who works it together with firearms, they have to trust each other as a team to make sure that they're all doing the right thing. If you're in the first position and you forget that you're in the third position, but you're used to being in the first position and you go in and you sweep the same region that somebody else swept, right, Then that means you let your team down and the potentially missed an attacker and then they're now everybody's shot, right. So that's a form of kanda, but it's real focus based training they're all doing.
And if you just have one person, there's a way to sweep the room properly in a pacific the specific order so that you so that you minimize the the ability of somebody hiding to to actually attack you from a great angle, right, and it gives you a good response time and good angle on them stuff all that crap. So that's when that's when kada can be good. Okay, right, But you have to know exactly why you're checking behind the door. You have to know exactly why you're pushing that door against the wall and waiting for that thump.
You're looking at your your your you have to know exactly why you're pointing the gun around a corner and going towards this window or whatever whatever the scenario is, right, because if you don't know why, you might forget to do it. And I think that's a lot of why people like even traditional CAU a sense where we're talking about like you know, they just they do it out as a sense of decency, out of a sense of respect of oh, it's tradition. You if you don't ask what the same thing even martial life RADI training, if you don't ask, what's the relevancy of it? You know, if you're not because that's part of what we say the active growing process, you want to understand and we've done that a few times.
I know, classes where we go through techniques, why does that work? Or how are you doing it? Break it down as if you're showing somebody else, you know, try to explain the reasoning why it works, why it doesn't work, what's the difference. Those are the questions that I think people just sort of either they don't think about they they skip them, or they just for maybe don't even think they're relevant.
But I think that's why a lot of times there's issues of the getting to the point and they're and they're stagnant because they're not growing, because they're just focused strictly on doing it for the sake of doing it, not challenging why and how and when and where As we're saying even like in these tactical situations, it's which is so critical and so crucial, So I can see where that really can cause issues there. We we need, we need context, we need to know what we're doing and why we can't. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what they uhould do in the past, but and that and that that's coming from me. I'm naturally inquisitive and curious.
I want. I want if I know, If I know what I'm doing and why, I'll do it way better than if you just say just do it. Just trust me. Try Sorry, I mean, because if I think it's a waste of time, I'm not going to do it, you know what I mean.
So you know it's there's for me, it's like, yeah, I trust you, you're my trainer. I trust you one hundred percent. But if you can't answer a basic question and trust that I can handle the information, and let's say I can't handle the information I asked you and say, you know what, I'll tell you later, but for now, just do it, right. Like if if by the end of class you don't tell me what we did and why, you know, I might not be able to put any purpose to it.
I might just write it off. But if I have something to think about in context, I can think about it later and say, oh, so when that person puts their foot here and I do this, then there we go, right, and you start getting the light bulbs going off. Everything up. But everybody's a different learner, you know.
And if you're if you decide to go to a dojo and they do codas there, right, do the kadas? I mean, that's that's the place that you're choosing. I mean, they're not nobody's wrong for doing kadas, but just just know that that somebody made these kadas up right, They could be twenty years old. They could be two hundred years old.
You don't know, right, And the moment somebody says that these are legit kadas, these are incredible kadas, you just got to look at them and say, well, how old are they? Like, well, they're two hundred years old. Well what about kadas that are four hundred years old? Were they better?
Yeah? That's a fair point. So does age equal better all of a sudden? Because I don't think so.
And then what exactly is the time the cutoff for when kada was no longer good if it was created? So if I I mean, I've been doing martial arts for twenty years. That pales in comparison for some people. Yeah, but you know, I have a lot of knowledge in my noggin, right, and if I decided to create a kata that had a lot of good, good information on it, especially if I told you what it is each step of the way and all that stuff, right, why would that not be a good thing?
Oh, that's right, that's right, because it's twenty twenty four and nobody wants anything to do with anything that isn't ancient all of a sudden. You know, martial arts are meant to evolve. If you want to go back in time and use a sword and think you can take on these swordsman, just because you're learning in the twenty you know, the twentieth first century, good luck. Hey, I'm sure they're going to be a lot better than you are.
However, if I went back there with a gun, guess what evolution boom? Right now? You know, I'd rather go with an advantage. So, you know, I talk at great lengths about the evolution or evolutionary process and how that affects arkadas and stuff.
But yeah, we need to just trust our teachers do what they want us to do. That's fine, but don't be afraid to ask questions. And when you're running your own school, when you're passing on the art and stuff, if you find honest value in them, in in the kadas and you think that there's no way you're learning this martial art without the kada, right, then then what does that say about the martial art? You know, what does that say about your If if the kada makes the martial art, what does that say about your teacher?
How if somebody said, Ramsey, you know what you have, Like there's like twenty kadas that you have, and uh, if I don't learn those, I don't think I'm going to be ever ever you know, as as good, Like, well, then I'm failing as a teacher. Yeah right, I'm failing as a teacher, Like holy crap. Right, and then you consider you consider passing down the information. Okay, I'm going to give you all twenty kadas.
Start taking notes, right, and now all you gotta do is all you got to do is practice seskda and you're gonna be really good. Really really, this is way more. There's way more to it, you know, we we can't just bank all of our information on Kada. It's not it's not a reliable form of training, right.
Yep, yeah, that that's that's true. Do we lose are we got time already? Hang on a second, Nope, We're still there? Did I did we lose your connection?
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Yeah, yeah, No, that that makes a lot of sense, I think. And that's the thing too, Like we we say this a lot, and this goes for just about anything that we in life, any areas really and truthfully, but uh, the thing of it is is you have to ask those questions. You have to do your own research. Talk about this all the time regular training too.
And I know because I've been in that frame where you or two where at the time when you train there you don't ask the questions. You just kind of like blindly follow and go with what's taught to you. The problem there again too is that's that's gonna obviously harm your growth and trying to develop and learn things. I think for people too is and again it's going back to especially in the catta sense, where not saying that.
And I believe just from listening to this these discussions like internally when we had these missless first brought up, because it obviously it drew, it drew a lot of feedback right away, I think that the misconceptions were that, you know, and again we weren't saying that these are totally not necessarily they're not totally completely worthless. They have a place for some reason, but they shouldn't be as overly glorified as they have been and you know, maybe where they were in their place and time and again same thing, the authenticity of it. People don't track that, they don't ask that question now. I would say too for me that you know, the kadas that could be ancient as far as two hundred to four hundred years old, going back before firearms and things like that serve the purpose then.
But even there could be kadas that deal with just say guns and other kind of projectile weapons nowadays that are only you know, maybe five or ten years old, just because they don't have as much of experience under that wise, as far as being around, doesn't mean they can't be productive and can't be beneficial and I think the problem too also at the end of the day is there's we see this in our culture too. In society, there's so many different interpretations and people have so many different difference and variants of opinions that they and again I can't say everybody can't be right and wrong. There's there's all there's just so many that there's there's no agreement on stuff. When you have these little things like talking about and training and doing that, you know, you everybody has to just develop.
And as we say too at the beginning, you mentioned this too, is keeping an open mind of like what we're talking about here. And again it's not to say that you know, you should obviously you know, question that. And again if anybody who listens is training there in your own school, maybe you haven't thought about this too, you know, find out and do research on it. You know, maybe this is something you haven't considered before.
This is just kind of a thought provoking process to help you, you know, really value and we say all the time get the most out of your training, right, So I think that's really the key essence there. And you know, when you when you break it down at the end of the day and as they said too, time is precious where you want to focus on those those key things. And it's not to say you're wasting times on things that are not relevant or important, but if you don't have a balance, or if you are utilizing things you use that analogy earlier, the person that focuses more on the cotton than the actual practical training part, who's going to have better success. You know, there's that relevant understanding of you need to be aware of that.
You could, you could study it, train it up and down, but in the end, if you want it to be a practical use and things like that, it's not gonna happen. Same thing with the understanding of real life scenarios and adding stress to it, because I think that's really the biggest problem is anywhere that a lot of times people they train into different things, they're not put in a simulated type of situation. And obviously you don't want to throw yourself in a real life situation, but you want to be as closely relatable as possible so that you know that your your reflexes are there. It's kind of going through the gun range, you know, when they have like those pop out targets to shoot and everything right, and you know it's the idea is not to make you trigger happy, but it gives you the sense of something could pop up just that quick.
Do you shoot the right target? Do you shoot? You know they throw like innocent bystanders in like you're trying to orchestrate a muscle memory of going through being under pressure of you don't know what's gonna come up, who's gonna come out? That sort of thing.
But at the same time you also know that going through through that you have a better calibrated mindset of this is more of a practical reality sense that this is what could happen, not shooting at just plain targets that aren't gonna move and you know, or dummies that you know maybe are are staged a certain way. You know, you want it as closely relatable as possible. And I think for the codas too, it's the same kind of thing. So it really doesn't make sense.
And I will say since reading it, which hopefully you guys will want to read the blog further too, you can get a lot of great information there too. It does pause me to think about it now, I will say too, my first impression I wasn't sure how I was gonna take it. But the more I thought about it, and the more obviously throughout the classes we talked about it, and as I started reading the blog, I did kind of let myself because I'm in the same mindset. I wanted to be open minded.
I didn't want to close myself off, and I didn't want to get so narrow to the point of I'm doing myself more harm than good. So I do see that the potential there, and why things are being said, and why you have that set up that way. And again, of course, nobody's ever going to agree one hundred percent naturally, It's just it's just human nature. We can't all get along all the time.
Everybody has their own opinions and stuff and formulated. But I think if we, if we had a better understanding of at least interpreting information and making of it our own, I think we would do a lot better, and we'd be able to be more productive and get more things accomplished, because at the very least we'd have that sense of seeing the pros, the cons, the left, the rights. I think that would that would really be be vital. There there was one other point I was looking at I just wanted to see if I can find it, because I do have this up here, because I have it just in case that we talked about and that you covered that we covered.
Let me see where it was it here? Hang on a second, do you do I think it was in this here? So? Yeah, this was the I this is the collective or so in a sumerical sense, when you because if somebody were to say to you, okay, Ramsey, so if you were going to just be straight with me, be up front, give it to me right down the line here, and I'm gonna throw this as a curve ball question of tell me upfront, especially as a newer person there, what you're saying with cottage?
Should do I invest it? Should I invest it? How would you encourage me what to do? How to do it?
If I approached you directly on the street or in your own place of establishment and saying, you know, just to kind of challenge that, what would you what would you say to me? As a maybe perspective student, there's been some people coming in inquiring about training that hear these things. How would how would you not sugarcoat it for them? Be honest and upfront, but hope to convey the information.
I guess, I guess the best way to put it to them, help them understand at the same time, you know, not give them they give them like the answer right away. I guess too, Like you want to at least challenge a bit. How would you do that, I guess in essence, if I'm crazy. Yeah, I usually just tell people this stuff by by having them answer answer questions.
So I try not to challenge people directly. I instead just asking questions because people people don't want to be told what to believe. They have to be they have to they have to develop those opinions by themselves on their own. So how do you do that, Well, you ask them questions and to a to a brand new person who's never done anything before, right, they're going to have They're going to be like, well, this doesn't really mean anything to me, you know.
Uh So, depending on their experience level, it's gonna be a way to talk. They're going to be like, well, I heard that it could be good or it isn't right, and I'm gonna have to tell them unfortunately it's both good and ad. And I would say, look like we do a little bit of kada here, but not in a traditional sense. It's going to be well, I want you to just kind of you know, the kada could be just three movements, or it could just be you know, or it could be with a partner, you know.
And but but save all that solo kada, all the complexities of kada for when you're way way down the line, because it's just it's not important into a new person, it's not going to be beneficial to training. Just come to class, listen to what I say, and uh, practice as best you can, and then go from there. Ask questions. Yeah, that's that's that's that's my advice for anybody who's new getting into martial arts.
If they want you to do kada, do it right. If you don't want to do the kada, you feel weird about doing it, maybe it maybe you want to get out of your comfort zone. Well that'll that'll do it right, doing a big P I R K I right. But but but yeah, some some instructures are really help bent on it, and I just I'm not and I've never really been keen on it instead of just kind of been just doing them, you know.
And and I don't like just doing things just because anymore yeah, I'd rather I want things to have purpose and intention, and so if it doesn't have that, you know, with with with people doing kadas every other day, Like even in my training, everybody comes in and I'm like, well I forgot the kada. Okay. You know, it's like, okay, so you forgot the kada. Did you learn anything?
You forgot the kada? Right? Did you learn anything? Which?
Right? And that's the whole point. Right, But if I but if I took point, But if I took elements of a kada, right, like one scenario or one portion of it, and I trained it and drilled it and talked about it and explain the purposes and reasoning behind certain things, then maybe they just maybe they'd be able to come back to me a week later and say, oh, yeah, yeah, you went over this concept or this drill or this right then, and that that would be so much, so much better even if we don't remember it, but maybe you'll remember some of that stuff. So the whole memorization thing, it's just wasted energy.
If you ask me, so, I I should. As a teacher, my job is to show you everything I know in a in a way that you can handle it. And digest it. Just relying on my katas to get you to learn is irresponsible as a teacher.
You know, there are some there are some things that I've I've learned in katas that we never did practically, you know. So I had to kind of figure out, well, when could I use this? And then and I would, Right, But I don't want I don't want my students to spend twenty years figuring that out for them, right, I don't want them to reinvent the wheel, right, I don't. I don't, you know, I don't want to go.
I don't like that's what I'm here for. I'm not. I'm here so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel. I'm not going to give you a car with square wheels on it.
Yeah, No, you don't miss yeah now yeah, and then you're just like. Well, thanks for the car, sense, but has square wheels it? I don't know, figure it out. I have to figure it out.
I'm not even going to tell I'm not even going to tell them, you know, round wheels exist. I'm just gonna say, just figure it out. Make the car run smoother, make it less, you know, make it better, make it more efficient. Oh well, how do I do that?
No, you have to figure that on your own, reinvent the wheel, you know. That's what we're here for. I want to transmit the information. I want my students to learn faster than ever, faster than ever.
And I know it's not a rush, it's not it's a process. But you know, I want my students to understand and learn this stuff absolutely, at a at a at a decent pace. I want them to be good, you know, and I want them most of all that I want them to understand this better than I do. I want them to come back to me and say, you know what I was thinking about this technique and x y Z I've thought about you know what, I never thought of it that way.
Awesome, Now I got something. I want. I want my students to think. I don't want them to be just drones that follow my ever command and say what you know, say what I say, right, do as I do.
No, I want I want you to just be your own martial artists. I want you to do your own thing, create your own style. You know, if you don't think something works, then throw it away. So you know what, since a Ramsey you taught me she owned.
But but I just I never use it, then don't use it. I don't care. I don't care. But at least you know you had it and you've done you know, at least you're knowing that it's there.
So right, how do you how do you know it's not worth anything if you never try it. That's why, that's why I don't tell people not to do kadas. By all means, do your kada's. Figure it out on your own if you need them or don't need them.
I'm just telling you ahead of time. You know, in the scheme of things, you don't need them, but I want you to. I want you to work on that your own, on your own. I want you to figure that out on your own, because you're going to believe yourself more than you're going to believe anybody else.
Absolutely, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's just I want I want everybody to just be a good martial artist and you know, and that's what's going to get passed on, not just some cool looking kada. So another thing that that that I wanted to talk about was again, a lot of this stuff is in there, but. I start to say, like, you know, there's perfect timing hold that thought one second, this is what it's it's at will say this, we don't, we don't plan this.
Hang on a second. That we'll get Ramsey here. We want to talk about this too. And like I said, this is something I can see if I can actually, Yeah, we gotta wait a couple of minutes.
We'll play it, maybe do one more last commercial here. We're gonna we'll use this. We'll use let me get him back on here. I'll message is that.
Mm hmmmm. Hang on a second. Let's see there we go. All right.
Like I said, I got multiple things going off through the studios here, let's see all right now some great points. I really hope you guys are enjoying this. This is and again a disclaimer part is this is just information that's that's coming from where we're coming from, we're sharing from. It doesn't mean it's one hundred percent.
You have to take it at face value. You have to do this, you have to do that. This is just an idea of think about the concept a little bit, challenge yourself, question yourself. Which we're gonna talk with Ramsey to get him his other topic he wanted to cover, which is also in the blog.
There and again we're gonna share that information. You can check it out. We wrap up, we'll give you the links for everything, and then we'll kind of recovery you guys there too. Remember as well, if you are in the local area, we will give you that too, actually, and I'll have it in check us at Impulsemartial Arts dot com.
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As always, this thing just always seems to cut us off at the worst time. We're getting Ramsey back in here in just a second, trying to time is just right. Where is he out there? Do do?
Do? Do do? Let's if I can get the there we go Alrighty should take by the moment. He's usually pretty quick.
He's like a gunslinger with there. He just pulls it right out of the holster and jumps right and let's get his microphone set up here. There he comes. And then while he pops in, make sure the volume is good.
Whoops, that's too much, too much power there. Yeah, technology is great. Like I said, there's one day we might we don't use this too much, but we might try to bump that up. So anyway, just to catch you up your eyes if you're just tuning in, welcome, we were talking to our good friend Ramsey Beach from Impulse Martial Arts.
We're talking about some good topics here. There was one you got caught off there. You were gonna say you wanted to cover from the blog, and so go ahead. I'm sorry you got cut off there.
No, that's fine. So essentially, Like one of the last points I make was, you know, there's so many catas out there, how do you know which ones are the ones? And if you don't have all of them, do you have enough to become the best martial artists in that category? That that martial art?
And you know, so like if you have if there's a Coda kan karate and they have twenty kadas just saying numbers here, and then you have Shoto kan karate and they have ten different kadas, you know it's one of those. Okay, Well, if I don't have both systems kadas, maybe I should do both systems. Otherwise I won't be good at karate because they're both karate. Right.
If I don't know all the sword kadas that exist, am I am? I? Am I going to be good? Right?
So so that's going to lead that's going to lead you to say, well, you know what, then maybe I should go learn all those kadas. Right. Well, here's the here's the fun part. You don't have to Okay, you know, yes, they're different, you know sometimes martial arts are different mentalities and stuff, but but realistically, going and learning all the kadas from every martial art will not make you a good martial artist.
It just won't. Just won't. You have to take instruction, you have to learn the martial art. That's what's going to make you a good martial artist, not the individual.
So I found out literally recently. I've seen it before, but it's just never like clicked and I in the art of ikdo there are I learned four Joe staff commas. There's a ninth step, there's a thirteen step, there's a thirty one step, and a thirty five step. I did a whole bunch of research for one from my experience working with other ike doka.
The thirteen steps, thirteen steps to it. It's done differently by other martial arts schools. Okay, so that's one thing. Some of them don't even recognize the ninth step, and most of them don't even recognize the thirty one of the thirty five step.
And I'm like, okay, well, where did mind come from? And how do I know I'm doing? And then then, unbeknown I discovered that there's a twenty two step Joe Katta in the art of aikto that is relatively well known throughout a lot of the akita world. But the question is why didn't I ever get it?
Why didn't it get transferred to me? And would I be a better martial artist if I got the twenty to twenty two step on top of that? Right? Why am I missing out on that twenty two step kata am?
My answer no, My answer is no, I'm not missing out on that because anything that that kinda has should have been taught to me by my teacher, right, and if it wasn't, it is what it is. But you know, with all the movements and stuff that there is with a weapon like that, I got a good understanding of it. I don't think learning the twenty two step caughta today, you know. I mean, I'm rise, I'm very open minded, right, But it's in the book what's it called?
Uh the Aikito and the Dynamic Sphere right? Uh? That that that that book with like the light green cover it. Anyways, Uh, it's in there and I can learn anytime I want, But I don't.
I just I don't think it's gonna make me a much better martial artists overall. And if I memorize it and do it perfectly exactly, and then knowing that other marshal other schools are practicing the same cause, but they look completely different. Well, who's got the right one? Yep?
You know, we're taught it at three different ways to three different people, for three different lineages. Which one's right? That's the problem. So so there's just too much, there's too much stuff that's wrong with them.
Practice with my with my mates, and and just just do it real time, real form, and make sure that what I'm doing is good enough, you know, making sure that I can block those punches, making sure I can lift somebody up over my shoulder, making sure I can sweep somebody with the proper ye proper form, proper KOZUTIONI all that k stuff. So yep, yeah, it's the world of KA. There you go, And you know, I will say this whole experience and again just and I hope you guys will get a chance to go and read it. We're gonna share that link directly for the blog.
We're actually gonna we're gonna do some promos here there to kind of wrap things there. First of all, thank you Ramsey for being here. Appreciate it as always. Uh, we will definitely look forward to another episode again, hope you guys will too, because it seems to be pretty popular when we get these out there, but you can check that out.
The blog is there Impulsemartial Arts dot com. Again, if you're in the eastern area, they're in PA, welcome to come out try a class. Make sure you tell them San CROs Enthy if you heard us talk about it many times, you probably will likely see me there, so you have a chance to meet me in person if you come out there. But definitely some good food for thought.
And again, maybe you've been training for quite a long time, maybe you've been considering training. Hopefully this has helped you to skip some of the process to contemplate what you should be looking at. And we've all been there, We've all had that school search where we're trying to find the right place to go, how to get there, and so forth. Hopefully this helps you to get a head start and a jumpstart on what you want to do there.
But and again, the biggest key thing is challenge yourself by asking questions, figuring it out on your own there. Instruction is good. Always follow your instructors and listen to the guidance there, But as you grow through it, make sure you're not afraid to ask those questions to ensure everything is taught and that you're getting the most out of it, and if there's any confusion, that you don't become stagnant or stale because you were afraid to step up there. So but check it out there Impulsemartial Arts dot com.
You can also Ramsey mentioned Gun Tactics, which you have your certification and you can teach classes there. Impulse Tactical. Is that Impulse dash Tactical. How does that?
I forget the website comes. Out, yeah, Impulse hypen Tactical dot com. So if yes, if you want to do some like talking about the gun training like sort of like the seal training, things like that, how to handle firearms, you can check that out. Classes are available.
You can sign up there as well. What are the things we got going? It is quite a bit going on, I think specific you want to highlight there while we have the audience's here here. I mean essentially, just well, when you're ready to do martial arts, you know, try it out.
Almost every school will teach you how to do it. We'll teach you for free, you know, to give that ye, to give that that that trial, so you know what you're getting into. And then uh, you know coming up if you're in the area, we have great guy Kenny big By Junior coming out and he's one of my tactical instructors from Indiana Navy Seal And let's see, yeah, we get just got a got a bunch of stuff going on. Teacher coming out from Texas.
Yep, we got a teacher coming out from Texas and uh that's in October. So lots of opportunities for people, lots of gun courses, lots of self defense courses, lots of stuff you can learn. If you want to learn it, you can probably teach it to you. And if we don't, and if I don't think it can be talked to you with our school, then we will send you somewhere else.
I mean, it's just the way it is. The honest feedback is there, and you won't sugarcoat anybody, and you want to be genuine. That's a hard thing to find. Most places, they just want you, so they'll tell you anything.
So that's uh, they'll they'll talk you into a contract and be done with it and then you can you can you can complain about it later. But yeah, I'm not here, that's that's not how that's not how we work. No, not here for sure. Yeah, come have a good time learning from stuff and yeah.
Relaxed environment, it's nothing stressful. Just come and have a good time. You get good quality information and you know, it's a great community, a lot of great folks there, so as well as the kids program too. If you have kids that are interested want to train there, you can come out with your kids and you can get some training and your kids can get some training.
So there's something for everybody there. Of course, you guys can enjoy that and remember too, we will share on us too. We have Impulse merchandise there. If you want to get some stuff there, check us out at our link tree that has the official store.
Items are available now. There are some discounts that are coming up as well. Thank you guys though for being here, and again Ramsey, thank you so much. Hope you had a good time.
To look forward to meeting again and we will get some a new topic there. We'll dive back into the martial arts world. But we appreciate you sharing your expertise with us. Ooh, you're welcome anytime, and.
Hopefully you guys learned a lot. Hopefully you guys will come back and again, as always, you can reach out to us if you have further questions, We'll be happy to either tell you or we can get you in touch with Ramsey. If you have direct questions at Impulse there we can. You can also reach out there.
I had it pulled out, let me get it up there. You can email Impulsemartial Arts at gmail dot com. There if you have questions or concerns, or you want to just get general information, we can well, I would say, you don't mind if we share the phone number, but you have it on a personal site that's available for the public anyway, So you can also call four eight four six six four eight eight seven eight and talk to the Sense himself and you can get some other great information if you want a little more personal touch to be able to find out any questions he can answer for you. There.
Check it out today, and of course you guys, check this out. We'll be back then Saturday night. We'll have a brand new show for you guys. Hope you'll tune in for that.
Lots more fun coming up the summers winding down, but we have hopefully some other surprises in store we can get out for you. Guys, and then for Ramsey too. I will see you this week. I'll be there.
We'll be back at it and again hopefully we'll see you guys. Come on out and train with us, try it out, have a good time, become part of the family if you want to. There's no contract necessary. Uh.
He will poach you later on and give you the fine print details when you sign up. But that's a whole separate thing. I'm just just kidding. Your blood you must sign it and you have to stay.
Your whole soul is for eternity, so it's not just for there's no sign up there. There's no turning back. You must hand over the first born. Yeah, and you're in for life, whether you like it or not.
If you bring your kids, your whole family is sucked in. You're you're stuck there. So yeah, yeah, very yeah. Yeah, there's no going back.
Make mere exactly. No, we're just kidding. We think if you love it though, you want toust again because there's great group of people there, So hopefully you'll come and check it out. But hopefully you guys enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Take care. We'll see you guys again very soon. Again as always our pleasure. We love having you guys here.
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You all know him and love him. Our good friend from Impulse Martial Arts, Ramsey Veach Ramsey, good evening, Thank you for being here. Oh justin, thank you very much for having me again. Of course, it's been a long time coming.
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Let's jump in here. So this is gonna be a fun topic tonight. Why is that, you might ask? Well, thank you for asking, I'm gonna tell you that I thought about this.
I actually had an idea for this next episode, but most recently, probably within gosh, maybe the last one. Did you write that or talk about that? Probably the last month or so. So Ramsey kind of set the world ablaze a little bit, or at least in our little martial arts community, of some implementing changes that he discovered, which we're gonna pick his brain because we're curious to hear.
And again I've heard a lot of this, but for you guys to get some tips and tricks and wisdom on insights, we want to pick this apart a little deeper. So now some of you might train before, maybe you haven't trained. So in a lot of regular martial arts they have what's known as kata, which kadas are and most of you guys probably have watched Cobra kai. You're probably familiar with that anyway.
But just to put it in short, our pre meditated, predetermined movements you can do single person, which by yourself or sometimes in certain arts with partners you can train, but it's sort of almost like I guess you could say, choreographed and almost like dances in a way, like when you kind of preset everything there, and so Ramsey had shared recently, and we're gonna we're gonna set the stage here and let Ramsey take it from there then, because I want to I want to pose this question too that get started, but I had some thoughts about why KADA does not seem to be quite as important. What I know, you're probably all sitting there going wait before, don't turn it off, don't turn the episode off. Hear it out. We want to.
We want to investigate. That's part of the job here. We want to find out why so, but that started a lot of controversy within our own group, and so for this episode, I wanted to put it out there and let Ramsey try to explain yourself. Explain yourself, sir, defend yourself here, and if there's any hate comments, I'll give you his address and email and all that stuff and your phone number later if you want to call and leave hate comments.
So yeah, so let's let's start off with this. Let's go here, and now again I'm gonna pretend like I'm just setting this for as an average listener that was not there and been part of this conversation. So first of all, to start this off, Ramsey, how did you come up with this idea which led to you the blog which I will share later on. We're going to put that in the link for that on the Impulse website if you guys want to read it for yourself.
How did you begin to contemplate, think about, translate and determine this theory about what you have about kada and what exactly that is? Would you like to share with everybody? Sure, so you know most of this is on the blog, but I'm going to give you a good summary throughout this podcast. Essentially, you know, I've been doing martial arts for over twenty years, and you know I've I've done many kada's.
I've learned old time kadas from God knows where they come from, and I've learned kada's made up by newer teachers. And I've always been exposed to kada via martial arts books or when I was a kid, TV all that kod stuff, yep. And so I looked into it more and I just I started understand. I started contemplating how important is kada to me as a martial artist, how is it to me as as a skilled developer?
And what is what is the ultimate purpose of kada. So the first thing I did was just kind of look into it to the extent of like, well, well, where's kada come from? And although I knew I knew where it came from, I didn't really know. So I always do my homework before I just start making decisions, right, Yeah, So, so I looked into it, and the majority of it, you know, stems from Eastern Asia, you know, Southeast Asia, China, Japan, all that stuff, right, And if you notice, there's not a lot of kadas from other parts of the world, from like you know, Western boxing to fencing to stuff like that, at least as far as I know, there aren't kadas involved with that.
So so I really just took an interpersonal look at it and said, well, you know what, I have dozens of kadas. I've learned empty hand kadas, I've learned weapons kadas and all that good stuff. But what did I get out of it? And ultimately, spoiler alert, I felt like I didn't get as much as I could have at had I used the time and energy and resources that it took to remember and to practice those kadas and just practiced the principles and the information you're supposed to learn from kadas in regular class and get that directly, and get that directly translated to me from the teacher.
And if anybody knows what kada is personally because they've learned it, or they have a teacher that uses it for training, then they'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Now, I am not the voice of martial arts, and I study martial arts that have no kadas, and I studyed martial arts that do have kadas. So so I just kind of gathered this evidence for myself and made this decision that ultimately I'd rather just learn the information that's within a kata and then I go and then and then just be done with it. That way.
Essentially, we do it all the time anyways. We just we just don't I don't think I don't think anybody realizes it. It's not as not as fixated as like when you're saying, okay, here we go step one, step two steps through. You're just naturally like moving in and doing stuff without calculating the moves, and you know, kind of like I know we talked recently too about we did open like the practice of you know, just practice movement and doing things which essentially could be kada base.
There's just no like you have to move this way that it was, you know, move freely and flow and you know, don't necessarily go super fast, but move what's comfortable. So you kind of see where that kind of does translate to more of the less choreographed version to more practicals of focus on just feeling comfortable moving and you know, not necessarily step by step guys of I have to I have to make this move here. If I mess up this step, this step is off. I skip step two and four, you know that sort of thing.
So that that does make sense from that standpoint if you look at. It, right, So, I mean so so so I yeah, and I and I kind of went into well what makes up a kata? And why do people why do people cherish them so much? Why do people I use the I equate them to a gospel.
Right, people learn religion and they say, oh, this is the gospel, meaning I'm going to follow everything that's in it. Right, And some people look at instructors, some people look at kadas. Some people look at martial arts as if they're the gospel of martial arts world. And and I promise you, no martial artists, no, no writings, no nothing, gospel.
They can and will change and they should change. They should they should be evolutionary definitely. Yeah. So so I write, I write intensely about a lot of this stuff so that everybody can have the different viewpoints.
It's not as it's not a simple conversation of hey does kada? Do you like kada? Do you feel like you're learning anything from it? Yes?
Okay, why that's that's a pretty quick conversation. But then when you say no, they're gonna you know, people are gonna ask, well, why, and now you have to go into this whole long list. And that's what I did. Okay.
I explain myself and I explain the the concept of kada as I see it. And if you read this blog you will see it's not a short read. It's make sure you have a cup of coffee, sit back, and make sure you have a good chunk of time to read it. So I can definitely test that.
Yeah, if you want to, if you want to learn a view point on kada that you might not have ever heard before, then then you want to read the whole thing, because it's it's never just it's not just black and white, it's there's a lot of gray. And one of the first things I say in the beginning is, you know, this is my interpretation and my point on Kada and I am I am here to give you as much evidence and opinion as possible, and you guys can make your own decision. I don't care. I don't care if you want to do kada.
Yeah, if you think Kada is the best thing in the world, by all means, go for it. I do not care. I'm not going to disrespect you as a martial artist. I'm totally fine with it.
I'm just letting you guys know that I've I've done the research, I've done the time. I've been doing this for a long time, and I see less benefit in it than it's known for him. Right. So so with that said, I I would love without talking about the entire blog on this and wasting her time too much.
Some of the prime points are and and a lot of this came up, by the way, because you asked about the origin of why I start thinking and play. You know, I had, I had, I had talked I had I always you know, I always watched I live martial arts. I'm always watching martial arts online and stuff, and somebody was doing a kata I think I had comments on it, and then I got some rebuttal to it, so so, and I just started thinking like, why do these people freaking care so much? Why is it like you know?
And then they start getting like narrow minded and well this and that and well you know, you know, well what what style do you do? Like people care too much much about all this stuff as if as if it matters, okay, and so I so that I really started to deep dive and saying like, you know what, this doesn't matter, right, and and here's some of the main points without having in front of me anymore, but I have here. So just no, no, no, I definitely don't. I definitely don't.
Uh. You know, when somebody says they do kata, I go great, But then I say, well, well, which coddas do you do? Oh? Well, you know in the magical sword arts that we do, right, you know, like iido or kendo or whatever whatever people want to do, with the samurai sword from Japan Ido being the most notable one.
If somebody wants to do aido, there's there's like twelve kadas that they have to do. It's like it's like there's like twelve forms that are like official. Maybe there's more, maybe there's less. I don't know.
Right then, then what you should be doing is questioning, okay, well, who determined that these twelve kadas are quote unquote the gospel? Who determined which ones were there more than twelve codas in the beginning? Who made up the kadas? At what point were they all made up at the same time, at the same person.
Were they made up by different people? Who were the judges? Who were the judges that allowed and kind of elected these kadas to become the gospel? And do carried on it has to be done exactly, so forth and so on.
Who who makes all these decisions over the past you know, four or five, six, one thousand years? Who does that? Right? And so when we look at the credibility of things, just like in my blogs about ranking systems and lineage, when you really to sit down and think about it, what's important, where it came from or what it is you know, and you know, nobody goes to a car lot and buys a car and says, but what country was it made in?
Okay, because because you know if you care about what country it came in, right, you're you're you're probably against that country for whatever reason. Okay, Right, but I promise you you're not going. If you're going to a Mercedes car lot, you already know that they come from freaking Germany or wherever they Right, if you're into a hundred parking lot, you already know that they're coming from Korea. Nobody, nobody, nobody really cares.
They really just care about the car. Otherwise they wouldn't be they wanted American makers, they would go to they would they would go to get a Ford or Chevy, as simple as that. Well, what matters is the car. They care about the car quality.
Okay, you put out poor quality of a car from Japan or Australia or Germany, right, then they're not gonna want it anymore. Okay. So we have this mentality of Japan being you know, or the or the you know, the Eastern martial arts being so particular and and just just perfect for some I don't know, for some reason. I guess that's the the energy you get and and realistically, like it's not it's not all that it's cracked up to me it's just you're just martial arts.
It's punching, kicking, grappling, it's it is what it is. Yeah, that's where a lot of them really stem from. Great, historically awesome, you know, no, but really what's more important the information. So if you if you met me on the street, he said, Ramsey, teach me everything you know about martial arts.
And I did, right, And then at the very end, I say, oh, by the way, these are all Japanese martial arts. Are you gonna go? Oh, I can't believe it. I don't want to do the Japanese martial arts.
Those are stupid. No, You're not gonna do that, right, because the information is way more important than where than where it came from. Of course, naturally, as long as I'm giving you subjectively and objectively quality information, right, then of course, then of course it matters. But again, even if you're if you're going to Japan and you're getting information but it's not good then it you know, then then you don't think you'll go to Japan anymore for for information you might become biased.
So the history of it, the history of it, and the context is is the super super in what's the non incredible. I don't even know what the word is horrible English, but yeah, it's I don't want to say incredible because it's not incredible anyways, you can't. It's it's hard to justify where these came from. And at what point in time do we stop making more katas and say, you know what, these are the only twelve we need.
Right? So in the end you're like, okay, so well I have these twelve kada is fantastic, right, what are there anymore? Well? No, that's it, You're done.
Well why not you're telling me these twelve codas teach you everything you need to know about the martial arts. I bet not. I've learned. I've learned kadas that aren't in the the mainstream martial arts, okay, meaning meaning like like there's like a there's specific martial arts that are like like Coda kan and ishan ru and you know that the big names, right, the ones that have really made their mark on Japanese or you know, Eastern martial arts, you know, Wing Chung stuff like that.
But but what about what about me learning a martial art kata from a quote unquote samurai family from a different island, from a different time period. And I say, you know, what do you guys know kada mawari? I don't know. I'm just making stuff up, right, And they're gonna be like, no, well it comes from the Yomata family from Okinawa circa fifteen fifty six.
Oh, that's a bunch of crap yo blah blah blah. Right, and now you're gonna have people. Now you're gonna have people going well, if I never heard of it, and if it's not part of these mainstreams, then it's not valid. It's also an argument you get.
So now people are fighting over validity of kadas, and I'm like, this is absolutely ridiculous, Like why why do people waste their time? If I give you a kada, I don't care if I made it up or some guy made it up a thousand years ago. What does it matter? If thea kada teaches you something, that's all that matters.
Right. Then I looked into well what are the kada teach you? And there's a whole bunch of stuff. Right.
People are like, well, they're all these hidden techniques. There's these it's to teach you good form and you have to practice it perfectly and it's to pass down the martial art and immortalize it because they have reading and writing back then. Because they were illiterate, they had to pass it down through song and dance essentially. And I called bullshit on that.
I call complete bullshit on that, because while while they they may right, I wasn't alive in sixteen hundred, I have no idea what they did. While they While some some people may have used kata to pass down a martial art, there's there's no kada or sets of kadas in any martial art that can possibly or that do currently that I'm aware of, encompass every single principle and concept and technique that would that could occur. Here's an example in jiu jitsu. Right, just in classical Japanese jiu jitsu.
I have a list of just like one hundred and twenty five basic technique right, not even the variations of such, just basic everyday techniques. Right throws and yeah throws and joint locks, you know, holds and all that stuff, right positions, all this just the super standardized basic stuff that you need to build to build your repertoire. And you can do all the karate cod or all the whatever kada you want. I guarantee you're not going to find these techniques in there, right, And then you get the argument of well, that's because they're hidden, And then I go, well, okay, that's fine.
This is what really kissed me off. This is kind of like this was kind of like the straw that bent on me and I can't set out my drink, right. And I've been hearing this since day one. Hidden techniques, hidden techniques, they're there, you just have to find them.
You have to discover them. We have to show them to you, right, And and then you actually see people actually doing it today. All right. I get across my feed all the time and people are like, oh, look look at this karate kata, and then below they'll show a video of a jiu jitsu throw or a judo throw right that may look similar.
And that's the problem. It doesn't. Right. So if you were going to pass down information about a martial art, and so I would say, hey, look, here's here's a book with everything you need to know about martial arts, just for example, right, or here, even better, how about this, here's a video of everything you need to know about martial arts.
And all you got to do is just study it and practice it and do it. You'll do it with a partner or everything you'll learn. You'll learn everything you need to know. You don't even need me, right, right, that's what they were doing.
They were teaching the kadas and then boom, right, But then I gave it to you, but the words were all scrambled. Right, no, no, no, trust it. It's in there. It's in there.
You just have to do. You have to find it, you have to decode it. Right now, you have to play anagram with it, right, So so I'm gonna teach you how do anagram so you can figure it out, right, So when it comes down to it, that's why I said, instead of me getting a kada day one and then five years later figuring it out understanding it, right, And some people say, I'm still figuring this out till today. I've been doing enough for thirty years, right, I'm like, you've been wasting your time.
So instead you could I could do a kada for my students. Right here you go. It's five or six moves, it's ten moves, whatever it is, right, And but here's the possible scenario for each one. Right, Look, maybe the person is doing this or this or this.
So we respond like this, here's the context of the kada as I view it, Okay, and then I pass it down to my students. What do you think they're gonna do it? They're gonna give that same context to somebody else, right, Eventually, eventually we have this whisper down the alley effect. And over four hundred years, do you think that do you really think that kada is the same.
Yeah? Do you think it's either performed the same or do you even think it was? Uh, it's being translated the same. Especially with martial arts world today, we're exposed to everything.
There's no more secrets. So yeah, that's yeah exactly. And with every with every martial arts, everybody knows a lot of everything. Nobody's just you know, one master, one martial everybody knows.
Everybody has access to everything. Right, so we're seeing this stuff so much differently. And but but but the idiocracy that somebody can say, hey, I learned, I learned a kada that's four hundred years old. Well, proved to me that dak kata is exactly the way it was four hundred years ago.
Yeah, and not to mention I'm a martial artist. I've made up my own coddas before, right, and I can touch on that a little bit later. Right, Does that mean my codas are invalid because they weren't made four hundred years ago? At what point in time?
At what point in time are people not allowed to make kadas anymore for them to be legitimate? Right? So if I made a pi kada, right, and let's just pretend I'm really really good at what I do, who's to say that that kada is not worth jack? When I see a lot of kadas that aren't worth jack?
And I promise you right right, kadas have their place, but they're not, but they're they're not the gospel. And instead of instead of going over the kada, figuring things out and waiting for somebody to give you answers and all that stuff, right, what you should be doing is saying, hey, look we're going to go over this kada today, boo boom boom, right that the students can write it down and memorize it all they want, right, Okay, And then and then you can say, look, here's what we're learning from a kada. Here are some points and principles that I want to point out that way when you are practicing it. If you decide to practice this, you know what you're doing, so you can do them properly.
And that's what pisses me off about kada is with hidden techniques and with techniques that can be used for multiple things. Right, you know, the arm punches and then it waves in a circle, and then it kind of does another big wave over the head and then you lift the foot. I don't know, I'm just making stuff up, right, But then you put that next to it, like if you if you come to the the dojo and we do a jiu jitsu throw, right, they look nothing the same, right, not even close. So so my argument is, well, it's good for punching and kicking.
Those look really good in kada's right, So you can learn punching kick really well in the kada, right, But when it comes to throws and grappling and response times and distancing and all that stuff, your works to use your imagination and not to mention because you're doing the kada so quote unquote properly, you're not doing it. You're not doing the techniques properly. So if you've ever done a shoulder throw ip bon snaga. You're one on shoulder throw throw of any sort, you'll see that no kadas do them exactly the way you're supposed to, because if you do them, then the way the kada says, I guarantee you it will not work.
And I'm willing to prove that to anybody who wants to come on out and try it. Right, if you're not doing it, if you're not doing a technique the way it's meant to be done in real time, even if you're doing it to the air, then you're not practicing and you're not learning anything, and you're just playing pretend and that's no good, and that's no good. And I'm not here to dog people, right, I'm just saying how it is you are literally playing pretend instead instead of punching the air and blocking the air and using your imagination, which again you could be a fit from it, all right, But I'm talking like fitness and strength and endurance. Right, you can get benefit out of fighting the air.
But not much, not so much of a regular opponent, Like it's not going to be practical, like a memory of you know, what do you do if you have like a confrontation, Like that's good for the exercise, but it's different when you have like the moving target scenario or there's somebody there, like there's that's a totally different. Absolutely, yeah, you do. Like so so if you do a if you had if you picked two people, like a set of twins, right, if you took a set of twins who are both in the martial arts, and I said, look, you like one twin, twin number one, he does a He does a kada for a whole year, that's all. He does, just one kada for a whole year.
Then the other guy spars with somebody for a whole year. Right, And then those two twins got into a ring. Who do you think is gonna win? I guarantee you it's not going to be mister Kata.
And that kind of validates my whole point. Right, Uh, you mean you can learn, but not as well as if you spent your time elsewhere. Kada is purely, purely supplemental and it and I think if you're going to do kada, you should be doing it later in your training, not earlier, because you need that mental focus. You need that all the memorization you have to do right, all those tweakings and stuff.
You can do that in class during regular sessions. Right, Hey, Glass, today we're going to do this. You can just give them a part of the kada. Right, let's really get this down because I want to show you why and how these operate in real time and practicality and this that right, and make the class focused on those points, you know, instead of just giving them this open book that's with scrambled letters and they don't really know.
They don't know what they're they're not they don't know what they're doing. They just know that they're doing it, right, But they don't know what they're doing. They have not any of it. It's kind of like, and I know, one of the other points that you the bullet points we can add in there.
Part of this was and you talk about the lineage of the kada, the kadas themselves, especially in the twenty first century, saying we talked this is one of the things we talked about too, was like, for example, defense against sword attacks, okay, which obviously during the Samurai era during the feudal times in Japan was practical then, but that was back into sixteen hundreds. Obviously, especially in our western culture in the US, how many times do we get attacked by a sword there? So you know the relevancy too, of there's no practical sense of these were designed for a different era that does not exist anymore. So you could also say for lack of better terments, no disrespect to them, but they don't really make much sense.
And again we don't even live in the Orient. We're living in wet in the West, which we don't see that anyway, So there's like that sense of doesn't really hold any truth to what you could potentially be dealing with on the street like today. Right, the context of our times is you know, it's important. And I speak to I speak to context because obviously the the when some of these kadas were made up, they're made up in a time where where swords ring supreme, right, there weren't firearms, There wasn't there wasn't the martial arts and and and knowledge that we have today around the world.
Right, Uh, you know, there were there were more chances of being caught in a battlefield. Right, So so katas make more sense because you know, because because they maybe they wanted to learn certain things whatever, right, but especially today, like I mean, I just I just I don't see it as a good use of the time. When it comes to training practical skills, you have to focus, It's right. It's only good for people who want to work on memorizing something or focusing on stamina and stuff.
Right, everything you can learn in kada, you can learn with a partner, okay. But everything you learn with a partner you can't learn from kada. So I'd rather just from a partner. And if you don't have and if you don't have a partner, that's fine, do certain movements.
Right, So if you saw me do a kada that had punches, blocks and throws, it's gonna look a lot different than these karate coudas you see today, Okay. And then when you look at when you look at samurai sword kadas from i ido or whatever. Right, those twelve kadas are talking about, right, they are so lame. And I say that, I say that with the utmost enthusiasm.
They're so lame. They're like one or two moves each they, you know. And I'm goin trying not to disrespect I ido practitioners because they do it for different reason. They're not doing it for practicality, that's for sure.
But but it's far from practical, far from practical, and and the and the audacity some of these people have. Oh we did lose. I was trying to time it. So let's let applause there really quick.
Uh that again, that's the unfortunate thing is we are so hopefully one day we are going to uh get this adjusted. Let's let Ramsey know here where did he go? That's when I message him? Uh uh huh mm hmmm.
Uh but yeah, hopefully, well we'll adjust that one day. But some good information so far for you guys. We're going to dive into this more a bit. In a little bit, we'll get Ramsey back in.
We're gonna get recalibrated, re situated, I will say, just from what we've been talking about so far. And again, you guys have questions to you, by all means reach out let us know. We can also put you in touch and you can check things out. We are gonna link the blog, the specific blog that Ramsey is referring to and talking about.
We will tag that in the episode itself, will add that like when we have it up on the YouTube channel, we can put that there as well. You guys can read it for yourselves, formulate your own opinions, if you guys train regularly and if you you know, have been doing hot as. And again we're not saying it's to be offensive to people, and it's just some ideas to think about because I think a lot of times, like Ramsey said, which is a good point, and I wanted to mention that as well, the focal and the focus is entirely different. People have different reasonings and different excuses for why they think about or don't think about certain things.
So we're just kind of picking it apart to help you guys challenge yourselves to be better well rounded martial artists and to just question things in general, to say does this make sense, is it practical? Is it not? You have to determine that for yourself. So that's kind of what we're diving into.
But we're gonna get into plenty more of that in just a moment. I hope you guys are enjoying this, and again, this is great stuff. This is a perfect topic. There some food for thought, and hopefully it'll give you guys an opportunity to explore and share this information with others.
It's very important, as we said, sharing the martial arts training and learning that is vitally important that we pass it along for future generations, and that we try to keep these alive and show the importance of that there as well. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna play a little commercial break.
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But we have our special guest joining us, an old friend who hasn't been on for a while. We're glad to have him back. Ramsey of Beach of Impulse Martial Arts. Tonight's topic we are talking about is Kata.
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So we're kind of talking about this, and I kind of want to just look at us in a little bit more l like if you want to share some more stuff here. But and I'm trying to think how to phrase this question specifically because we kind of touched a little bit about it. But maybe maybe the question to ask is this to kind of elaborate a little bit more in your professional opinion. And again we say how there's a lot of there's different arts that doocus on using kadas and it seems to be a strong focal point for training curriculum for whatever reason.
And what do you think, if you've given any thought to this, why do you think there are some schools or some systems out there that really push the kada train it so hard? No, I mean, obviously there's the easy one. It's tradition, they got to do that. But do you personally think that there's a lot of systems or arts that they feel like the kada really is beneficial as opposed to like we talk about practically, like working the techniques, working the stuff that really is the meat of the curricula, if you will, what are some of those things that you maybe you've encountered, I'm not sure, but what do you feel like why there's some places that do push kadas and they try to emphasize it's so important to teach students.
Right, that's a great question, and I'm going to answer it with the evolution of that is of martial arts. Mean, yeah, the martial arts are meant to evolve. As long as humans have been fighting, They've been developing martial skills that can be used to subdue or kill, or or handle or injure or whatever, right to win fights to protect themselves. At what point in time do we turn these into the term martial arts?
Well, whenever they wanted to. I don't know. Nobody really knows. Nobody really really care, right, Yeah, it's just semantic.
Nobody really cares, right, But at one point in time, somebody saw it as beneficial. And some people they just believe and they follow everything that they're taught and they say, you know what, my teacher is so good. I respect my teacher. They're very skillful and knowledgeable in everything.
If I want to learn what they learned, I should learn what they learned. That's their theory, that's what they think. I'm going to relate this, you know, and just to throw it out there, None of this is meant to sway anybody one way or another. I don't care if you do katda.
I don't care if you don't do kada. All I'm saying is that here's information, here's a different perspective potentially, and if and if you want to make your own decision, great, If you want to keep doing them, that's fine. All I'm saying is that if you if you do them differently, if you if you focus on them differently, you'll learn better, and you'll learn faster, and you'll learn and you'll just be more skillful and you would get better attributes overall. That's my professional opinion.
So do I think that you know so so? Relating its religion? Right? Some people are born into religion and until they die, they're just obsessed with that religion, right because they're just surrounded by it and they just honestly believe that that is the religion that should be.
That's all they know too, that's all they've learned and experienced it. Yeah. So, so now with the modern age, it's less and less likely that if you put your child into a world of let's say Christianity, that they might change their mind as they grow right, They're going to be exposed to atheism, They're going to be exposed to viewpoints of other many other religions. Even within their own basis of Christianity, They're going to come across different viewpoints of that same religion, and they're going to have to go through that past.
And that's what I do as a martial artist. You know, I learned from a specific teacher in a specific style, and a in a specific culture, if you will. But I but I outgrew my instructor. I outgrew that culture.
Because I'm not a huge fan of anybody saying we do this just because that's the way we've always done done it right. If we've always if everybody always did that with everything they did in life, we can still be living in the fricking fourteen hundred, you know what I mean. Anytime you answer, anytime you answer a question, well, that's just the way it is, that's just the way we do it. Shut up.
You don't know, Jack exactly. If you can't, if you can't evolve a martial art make it your own, if you can't add to it, if you can't, if you can't, if you're afraid to take away, right. If you're not If you're not afraid to give, but you're afraid to take away, right, then that just means you're not looking at everything properly, not everything we do today. Just because somebody did in the past and it worked for them doesn't mean it's beneficial, right, It doesn't mean it made an impact.
Uh. You know, There's there's drills I see people doing in martial arts that are very highly respected, and I just personally think that it's it's it's in the there are two person cottage to be specific, and they're just they're just things that I'm like, well, while you can definitely gain skills and attributes in one area, it's going to hurt you in another area, you know. So it's a balance. It's a balance.
So now, in my in my at my current point in my life in training, that's not something I want to learn because I think it would be more I think it would be more detrimental than beneficial to my style, to my to what I'm trying to do goal wise. And it's a shame too, because I'd like to learn it. It's flashy, it's cool, it's quick, and I think I can develop. But then I'm going to get locked in.
Then I'm going to get locked into their style more and and it's going to probably disrupt what I have going now. Not that I'm the best, ever, it has nothing to. Do with that. It's just I like what I do now, and I want to continue doing what I do and expand from that.
So instead of learning the martial arts, I'm going to take little bits from it that I think might be helpful. Right, And that's that's what Ruth really did, and he was made he was made famous for essentially was the development of g Kundo, which was to him, the best of all the martial arts that worked for him for the most part that he, you know, transposed down to his student tree and say, hey, look, guys, like these are the concepts. Here's a whole bunch of stuff. But even even the stuff that he teaches, if he was alive today, he'd still say, you know what, I don't care what I taught you.
Right, if it doesn't work for you, don't do it, do this and do something else instead. Right, and you're in. And when when a lot of other martial arts teachers they're like, no, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do it this way and this how, because if you don't, you're not going to be good.
That's you know, And that's just just just not the way that I operate. So that's why I disagree with that. So, but why they do it, They just they want to stick with the tradition. They want to stick with teaching people what they know.
Now. When I when I started formulating my and emulating certain ranking structures and curriculums off of what I was kind of raised on, I came across the same predicament saying, well, you know what, I want to test my students, but I don't want to test them under the same curriculum as I was tested because the way I was tested, I learned a lot of good, youthful stuff later in my training when I should have been learning it earlier. And so what I told my students literally just last week, I said, hey, look, won't you guys know, the later you get in my curriculum, Okay, Japanese jiu jitsu curriculum, the less useful and the less relevant and the less frequency these techniques are going to be for you. Okay, They're they're very they're highly circumstantial or very scenario based or whatever.
You're not gonna that's why I said, that's why you don't see me doing a lot of moves that you don't recognize, because the I put all the most accessible, easier things down in the bottom. And I said, so as you, as you go through the ranks and earn skills and and and and get these attributes going and all these techniques, blah blah blah, right, you're gonna find You're going to find that you're still resorting to the most basic white belt and blue belt techniques because those are the ones that are going to pop on the best and easiest and most effective. And then you're gonna want Then you're gonna understand exactly what I just told you right now, absolutely so so so I'm not afraid to change the structure. Right, it was a huge decision for me to tell my students I'm going to take I'm gonna take kadas out of sword class.
I want to take kadas away from my aikido class. Right. If I had tempo karate kadas, I would have taken those out too, And and you know, some people didn't like it, and that's that's totally fine. But then I asked, well, you know, you don't you want to do kada's for the weapons classes, but why don't you want to do kada's for the empty hand karate classes?
Right? You just kind of you just kind of you just kind of get a blank stare. Right. Well, you know, it's it's like, well, if you think odda is good, then it should be good all the way around, and we should learn kada in every single martial art and we should start developing some kada.
Is that good? So so you know, you know, so I chose not to do it, but I still want to teach the certain kadas because I learned them and I think some of them are really cool from a sexual standpoint. Right, there's some cool katas that I have access to that I'm like, this is really cool. Right, it's not relevant today, Okay, but it's it's really And I point a couple of them out in the in the blog, but they're they're just they're just cool.
You know, pick up a book read about them and understand the contexts of the times in which they were made and developed, and then you get then you get an understanding of the history a little bit. But me, I am not a history buff. I do not care what the samurai went through four hundred years ago. I don't care.
I think it's cool some of the things that they developed, and I appreciate and all that stuff, But I just I'm not a history buff. I don't care where this came from as much. You know, uh and and and along those lines. Again, it's been touched by man so much that I don't know what's accurate and what's not.
Well, that's the. Probably, and there's no way of telling you. If miamat if Miamoto Musashi wrote down and signed a book that says these are my codas that I'm crazy, right, all right, right, then I'd be like, oh, these are cool, right, But he's probably one of those people that probably didn't even do money catta. You know, he was a fighter.
He had he had he had dozens and dozens of battles in his name, right, that was his practice. I don't know, right, you know, and uh oh, but you did ask me, well, when does kada actually work? Right? When should we do kata?
And actually, if so, my guidelines for kada are this, If you're going to practice kada, mm hmm, it's important that we identify and practice exactly what we need to practice right and what we're trying to learn, not just doing motions. If you're just going through motions, you're doing martial arts wrong. You need to know exactly if I'm going to throw this punch and have a footwork and I'm going to have a fist this direction, and I'm going to have my arm locked out or not locked out, I'm going to grab if I'm going to put my foot here and not here, if I'm gonna be turned this way and not this way, if I'm going to be this close or not, if I'm gonna evade, if I'm going to do anything, you need to you need to understand why you're doing it exactly so that when you're doing it, you can identify and you can reinforce in your mind and say, oh, okay, right. And then not everybody's going to get everything right, not all, not in one drill, but a little by little.
If I keep explaining it, doing it over and over again, just like inn Akada, then then then you're going to pick up on it eventually. And then sometimes I'll be like, you know, I'll just wait for the person to get hit and and saying that's why we move right, or I'll wait for them to get or I'll stop them mid movement and I'll say, you know, Jackie push push Mic over and uh. And then Jackie pushes Mic over with ease right, and I say, you see, this is why we put our foot here and not here. Okay, So we identify those things.
But if you're doing a kada, you never get that. You tell them why they're putting their foot there, or you tell them to put their foot there, but you don't tell them why, and they can't experience in real time. But tactile feedback what happens if you don't and all of the news that come with it, and how do we adjust? So, so any kind of kada, make sure you know exactly what you're doing and why, what the scenario is.
Imagine it. If you can't imagine it, then you're not doing anything for you if you're doing it by yourself and uh, and you need to pressure test each sense of the movements and the kadas that you're doing. So if you're doing two person kata, right, something pre arranged okay, today, you know partner's gonna push, I'm gonna move that to the side. I'm gonna block, I'm gonna do this move right.
Then have them try to actually push, try to have them follow up with something right, so you can verify. Yeah, so you can kind of explore and verify the weaknesses and the nuances of what's going on. Why it didn't work, what maybe you could change you think about it. Right, or why it did work.
You can become because if you know it works, you can become more confident. You're not going to get that from a kada. You can you're gonna get You're gonna get uh what's the word called. You're gonna get a long kind of confidence you're gonna get fromagnet.
You're not gonna and you're not gonna know Like it's almost like repetitive to where you're just you're doing You're going through the motions, you're just doing it right. So I so when I when I teach gun stuff, when I teach gun courses, I I kind of emphasize the need to practice this stuff. Yeah, just by yourself, right. But I tell people, look, if you're gonna practice your drawing, right, I want you to do this this, I want you to do all this stuff exactly kind of like a cut of format, right, you know, and I want you to do X, Y and Z right, But just doing it at home by yourself and imagining attacker at your door is one thing.
Okay, having somebody actually with you to pop out or to charge you, or to dynamically move now getting your gun on target in a timely manner like with the tooler drill, the twenty one foot rule, you're you're now, you're now changing the element of the of the whole situation, and so so you have to Your imagination can only do so much. So having a real partner with you is vital to learning for sure as factor. And it really it puts time sensitivity of oh, like oh ship moment, this is happening, like you know now, you can't just imagine it's going on, right, So. So ideal, you know.
So, And if you're not going to do it with a person because you don't have the resources or whatever, that's fine. But if you're gonna do anything with a Kada write anything Kada esque, which I still advocate for, you know, stand there and say you know what, I'm gonna draw my sword or I'm gonna draw my gun. I'm going to do. I'm gonna turn to the left, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a couple of shifts.
I'm gonna draw my sword, my gun, whatever it is, right, and I'm going to make sure that when I draw it, it's because I'm doing this or it's because of this stimuli. If I'm drawing my gun, it's because of this stimuli, it's because right. And then, so give yourself a game plan, give yourself a scenario so you know exactly what the bunk guy is, exactly what's going on, so you can visualize it and treat it like a real situation that is going to be vital to how you do it. The problem with regular kadas in most dojo's is they don't teach you any of that in the beginning, and they and they they work on it later.
Oh, today we're going to go over and we're going to discuss kata. I've had this kata for three years, senseay, and I'm just learning this crap now. That would piss me off. Right, So, so here's here's an example of good kata.
Right, swat teams, seal teams. When you know they they perform kada's right. Here's how they do it when they're going to clear a room. Let's say there's four people.
They're going to clear a room. They're going room to room. They're going to be clearing. Well, they practice that, right, they practice that number one, Number one opens the door, and number two charges in.
He looks at one specific corner, right, he has one area to sweep. The person behind him brings up his gun. He is one area to sweep. The last person in, you know, w one area to sweep, and they all have to sweep consistently.
They all have to be in their own zones. They all have to do their specific thing, just like a kata, and if they don't during training, they either shoot a partner or they get shot by a perpetrator. So you have to trust each other. That's kind of the that's kind of the biggest thing with SWAT and anybody who any teams that clear rooms and compounds and stuff like that, right, anybody who works it together with firearms, they have to trust each other as a team to make sure that they're all doing the right thing.
If you're in the first position and you forget that you're in the third position, but you're used to being in the first position and you go in and you sweep the same region that somebody else swept, right, Then that means you let your team down and the potentially missed an attacker and then they're now everybody's shot, right. So that's a form of kanda, but it's real focus based training they're all doing. And if you just have one person, there's a way to sweep the room properly in a pacific the specific order so that you so that you minimize the the ability of somebody hiding to to actually attack you from a great angle, right, and it gives you a good response time and good angle on them stuff all that crap. So that's when that's when kada can be good.
Okay, right, But you have to know exactly why you're checking behind the door. You have to know exactly why you're pushing that door against the wall and waiting for that thump. You're looking at your your your you have to know exactly why you're pointing the gun around a corner and going towards this window or whatever whatever the scenario is, right, because if you don't know why, you might forget to do it. And I think that's a lot of why people like even traditional CAU a sense where we're talking about like you know, they just they do it out as a sense of decency, out of a sense of respect of oh, it's tradition.
You if you don't ask what the same thing even martial life RADI training, if you don't ask, what's the relevancy of it? You know, if you're not because that's part of what we say the active growing process, you want to understand and we've done that a few times. I know, classes where we go through techniques, why does that work? Or how are you doing it?
Break it down as if you're showing somebody else, you know, try to explain the reasoning why it works, why it doesn't work, what's the difference. Those are the questions that I think people just sort of either they don't think about they they skip them, or they just for maybe don't even think they're relevant. But I think that's why a lot of times there's issues of the getting to the point and they're and they're stagnant because they're not growing, because they're just focused strictly on doing it for the sake of doing it, not challenging why and how and when and where As we're saying even like in these tactical situations, it's which is so critical and so crucial, So I can see where that really can cause issues there. We we need, we need context, we need to know what we're doing and why we can't.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what they uhould do in the past, but and that and that that's coming from me. I'm naturally inquisitive and curious. I want. I want if I know, If I know what I'm doing and why, I'll do it way better than if you just say just do it.
Just trust me. Try Sorry, I mean, because if I think it's a waste of time, I'm not going to do it, you know what I mean. So you know it's there's for me, it's like, yeah, I trust you, you're my trainer. I trust you one hundred percent.
But if you can't answer a basic question and trust that I can handle the information, and let's say I can't handle the information I asked you and say, you know what, I'll tell you later, but for now, just do it, right. Like if if by the end of class you don't tell me what we did and why, you know, I might not be able to put any purpose to it. I might just write it off. But if I have something to think about in context, I can think about it later and say, oh, so when that person puts their foot here and I do this, then there we go, right, and you start getting the light bulbs going off.
Everything up. But everybody's a different learner, you know. And if you're if you decide to go to a dojo and they do codas there, right, do the kadas? I mean, that's that's the place that you're choosing.
I mean, they're not nobody's wrong for doing kadas, but just just know that that somebody made these kadas up right, They could be twenty years old. They could be two hundred years old. You don't know, right, And the moment somebody says that these are legit kadas, these are incredible kadas, you just got to look at them and say, well, how old are they? Like, well, they're two hundred years old.
Well what about kadas that are four hundred years old? Were they better? Yeah? That's a fair point.
So does age equal better all of a sudden? Because I don't think so. And then what exactly is the time the cutoff for when kada was no longer good if it was created? So if I I mean, I've been doing martial arts for twenty years.
That pales in comparison for some people. Yeah, but you know, I have a lot of knowledge in my noggin, right, and if I decided to create a kata that had a lot of good, good information on it, especially if I told you what it is each step of the way and all that stuff, right, why would that not be a good thing? Oh, that's right, that's right, because it's twenty twenty four and nobody wants anything to do with anything that isn't ancient all of a sudden. You know, martial arts are meant to evolve.
If you want to go back in time and use a sword and think you can take on these swordsman, just because you're learning in the twenty you know, the twentieth first century, good luck. Hey, I'm sure they're going to be a lot better than you are. However, if I went back there with a gun, guess what evolution boom? Right now?
You know, I'd rather go with an advantage. So, you know, I talk at great lengths about the evolution or evolutionary process and how that affects arkadas and stuff. But yeah, we need to just trust our teachers do what they want us to do. That's fine, but don't be afraid to ask questions.
And when you're running your own school, when you're passing on the art and stuff, if you find honest value in them, in in the kadas and you think that there's no way you're learning this martial art without the kada, right, then then what does that say about the martial art? You know, what does that say about your If if the kada makes the martial art, what does that say about your teacher? How if somebody said, Ramsey, you know what you have, Like there's like twenty kadas that you have, and uh, if I don't learn those, I don't think I'm going to be ever ever you know, as as good, Like, well, then I'm failing as a teacher. Yeah right, I'm failing as a teacher, Like holy crap.
Right, and then you consider you consider passing down the information. Okay, I'm going to give you all twenty kadas. Start taking notes, right, and now all you gotta do is all you got to do is practice seskda and you're gonna be really good. Really really, this is way more.
There's way more to it, you know, we we can't just bank all of our information on Kada. It's not it's not a reliable form of training, right. Yep, yeah, that that's that's true. Do we lose are we got time already?
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I couldn't tell, like the computer blipped and I'm like, I know, we didn't run out of time. There we go? Yeah, yeah, No, that that makes a lot of sense, I think. And that's the thing too, Like we we say this a lot, and this goes for just about anything that we in life, any areas really and truthfully, but uh, the thing of it is is you have to ask those questions.
You have to do your own research. Talk about this all the time regular training too. And I know because I've been in that frame where you or two where at the time when you train there you don't ask the questions. You just kind of like blindly follow and go with what's taught to you.
The problem there again too is that's that's gonna obviously harm your growth and trying to develop and learn things. I think for people too is and again it's going back to especially in the catta sense, where not saying that. And I believe just from listening to this these discussions like internally when we had these missless first brought up, because it obviously it drew, it drew a lot of feedback right away, I think that the misconceptions were that, you know, and again we weren't saying that these are totally not necessarily they're not totally completely worthless. They have a place for some reason, but they shouldn't be as overly glorified as they have been and you know, maybe where they were in their place and time and again same thing, the authenticity of it.
People don't track that, they don't ask that question now. I would say too for me that you know, the kadas that could be ancient as far as two hundred to four hundred years old, going back before firearms and things like that serve the purpose then. But even there could be kadas that deal with just say guns and other kind of projectile weapons nowadays that are only you know, maybe five or ten years old, just because they don't have as much of experience under that wise, as far as being around, doesn't mean they can't be productive and can't be beneficial and I think the problem too also at the end of the day is there's we see this in our culture too. In society, there's so many different interpretations and people have so many different difference and variants of opinions that they and again I can't say everybody can't be right and wrong.
There's there's all there's just so many that there's there's no agreement on stuff. When you have these little things like talking about and training and doing that, you know, you everybody has to just develop. And as we say too at the beginning, you mentioned this too, is keeping an open mind of like what we're talking about here. And again it's not to say that you know, you should obviously you know, question that.
And again if anybody who listens is training there in your own school, maybe you haven't thought about this too, you know, find out and do research on it. You know, maybe this is something you haven't considered before. This is just kind of a thought provoking process to help you, you know, really value and we say all the time get the most out of your training, right, So I think that's really the key essence there. And you know, when you when you break it down at the end of the day and as they said too, time is precious where you want to focus on those those key things.
And it's not to say you're wasting times on things that are not relevant or important, but if you don't have a balance, or if you are utilizing things you use that analogy earlier, the person that focuses more on the cotton than the actual practical training part, who's going to have better success. You know, there's that relevant understanding of you need to be aware of that. You could, you could study it, train it up and down, but in the end, if you want it to be a practical use and things like that, it's not gonna happen. Same thing with the understanding of real life scenarios and adding stress to it, because I think that's really the biggest problem is anywhere that a lot of times people they train into different things, they're not put in a simulated type of situation.
And obviously you don't want to throw yourself in a real life situation, but you want to be as closely relatable as possible so that you know that your your reflexes are there. It's kind of going through the gun range, you know, when they have like those pop out targets to shoot and everything right, and you know it's the idea is not to make you trigger happy, but it gives you the sense of something could pop up just that quick. Do you shoot the right target? Do you shoot?
You know they throw like innocent bystanders in like you're trying to orchestrate a muscle memory of going through being under pressure of you don't know what's gonna come up, who's gonna come out? That sort of thing. But at the same time you also know that going through through that you have a better calibrated mindset of this is more of a practical reality sense that this is what could happen, not shooting at just plain targets that aren't gonna move and you know, or dummies that you know maybe are are staged a certain way. You know, you want it as closely relatable as possible.
And I think for the codas too, it's the same kind of thing. So it really doesn't make sense. And I will say since reading it, which hopefully you guys will want to read the blog further too, you can get a lot of great information there too. It does pause me to think about it now, I will say too, my first impression I wasn't sure how I was gonna take it.
But the more I thought about it, and the more obviously throughout the classes we talked about it, and as I started reading the blog, I did kind of let myself because I'm in the same mindset. I wanted to be open minded. I didn't want to close myself off, and I didn't want to get so narrow to the point of I'm doing myself more harm than good. So I do see that the potential there, and why things are being said, and why you have that set up that way.
And again, of course, nobody's ever going to agree one hundred percent naturally, It's just it's just human nature. We can't all get along all the time. Everybody has their own opinions and stuff and formulated. But I think if we, if we had a better understanding of at least interpreting information and making of it our own, I think we would do a lot better, and we'd be able to be more productive and get more things accomplished, because at the very least we'd have that sense of seeing the pros, the cons, the left, the rights.
I think that would that would really be be vital. There there was one other point I was looking at I just wanted to see if I can find it, because I do have this up here, because I have it just in case that we talked about and that you covered that we covered. Let me see where it was it here? Hang on a second, do you do I think it was in this here?
So? Yeah, this was the I this is the collective or so in a sumerical sense, when you because if somebody were to say to you, okay, Ramsey, so if you were going to just be straight with me, be up front, give it to me right down the line here, and I'm gonna throw this as a curve ball question of tell me upfront, especially as a newer person there, what you're saying with cottage? Should do I invest it? Should I invest it?
How would you encourage me what to do? How to do it? If I approached you directly on the street or in your own place of establishment and saying, you know, just to kind of challenge that, what would you what would you say to me? As a maybe perspective student, there's been some people coming in inquiring about training that hear these things.
How would how would you not sugarcoat it for them? Be honest and upfront, but hope to convey the information. I guess, I guess the best way to put it to them, help them understand at the same time, you know, not give them they give them like the answer right away. I guess too, Like you want to at least challenge a bit.
How would you do that, I guess in essence, if I'm crazy. Yeah, I usually just tell people this stuff by by having them answer answer questions. So I try not to challenge people directly. I instead just asking questions because people people don't want to be told what to believe.
They have to be they have to they have to develop those opinions by themselves on their own. So how do you do that, Well, you ask them questions and to a to a brand new person who's never done anything before, right, they're going to have They're going to be like, well, this doesn't really mean anything to me, you know. Uh So, depending on their experience level, it's gonna be a way to talk. They're going to be like, well, I heard that it could be good or it isn't right, and I'm gonna have to tell them unfortunately it's both good and ad.
And I would say, look like we do a little bit of kada here, but not in a traditional sense. It's going to be well, I want you to just kind of you know, the kada could be just three movements, or it could just be you know, or it could be with a partner, you know. And but but save all that solo kada, all the complexities of kada for when you're way way down the line, because it's just it's not important into a new person, it's not going to be beneficial to training. Just come to class, listen to what I say, and uh, practice as best you can, and then go from there.
Ask questions. Yeah, that's that's that's that's my advice for anybody who's new getting into martial arts. If they want you to do kada, do it right. If you don't want to do the kada, you feel weird about doing it, maybe it maybe you want to get out of your comfort zone.
Well that'll that'll do it right, doing a big P I R K I right. But but but yeah, some some instructures are really help bent on it, and I just I'm not and I've never really been keen on it instead of just kind of been just doing them, you know. And and I don't like just doing things just because anymore yeah, I'd rather I want things to have purpose and intention, and so if it doesn't have that, you know, with with with people doing kadas every other day, Like even in my training, everybody comes in and I'm like, well I forgot the kada. Okay.
You know, it's like, okay, so you forgot the kada. Did you learn anything? You forgot the kada? Right?
Did you learn anything? Which? Right? And that's the whole point.
Right, But if I but if I took point, But if I took elements of a kada, right, like one scenario or one portion of it, and I trained it and drilled it and talked about it and explain the purposes and reasoning behind certain things, then maybe they just maybe they'd be able to come back to me a week later and say, oh, yeah, yeah, you went over this concept or this drill or this right then, and that that would be so much, so much better even if we don't remember it, but maybe you'll remember some of that stuff. So the whole memorization thing, it's just wasted energy. If you ask me, so, I I should. As a teacher, my job is to show you everything I know in a in a way that you can handle it.
And digest it. Just relying on my katas to get you to learn is irresponsible as a teacher. You know, there are some there are some things that I've I've learned in katas that we never did practically, you know. So I had to kind of figure out, well, when could I use this?
And then and I would, Right, But I don't want I don't want my students to spend twenty years figuring that out for them, right, I don't want them to reinvent the wheel, right, I don't. I don't, you know, I don't want to go. I don't like that's what I'm here for. I'm not.
I'm here so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel. I'm not going to give you a car with square wheels on it. Yeah, No, you don't miss yeah now yeah, and then you're just like. Well, thanks for the car, sense, but has square wheels it?
I don't know, figure it out. I have to figure it out. I'm not even going to tell I'm not even going to tell them, you know, round wheels exist. I'm just gonna say, just figure it out.
Make the car run smoother, make it less, you know, make it better, make it more efficient. Oh well, how do I do that? No, you have to figure that on your own, reinvent the wheel, you know. That's what we're here for.
I want to transmit the information. I want my students to learn faster than ever, faster than ever. And I know it's not a rush, it's not it's a process. But you know, I want my students to understand and learn this stuff absolutely, at a at a at a decent pace.
I want them to be good, you know, and I want them most of all that I want them to understand this better than I do. I want them to come back to me and say, you know what I was thinking about this technique and x y Z I've thought about you know what, I never thought of it that way. Awesome, Now I got something. I want.
I want my students to think. I don't want them to be just drones that follow my ever command and say what you know, say what I say, right, do as I do. No, I want I want you to just be your own martial artists. I want you to do your own thing, create your own style.
You know, if you don't think something works, then throw it away. So you know what, since a Ramsey you taught me she owned. But but I just I never use it, then don't use it. I don't care.
I don't care. But at least you know you had it and you've done you know, at least you're knowing that it's there. So right, how do you how do you know it's not worth anything if you never try it. That's why, that's why I don't tell people not to do kadas.
By all means, do your kada's. Figure it out on your own if you need them or don't need them. I'm just telling you ahead of time. You know, in the scheme of things, you don't need them, but I want you to.
I want you to work on that your own, on your own. I want you to figure that out on your own, because you're going to believe yourself more than you're going to believe anybody else. Absolutely, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's just I want I want everybody to just be a good martial artist and you know, and that's what's going to get passed on, not just some cool looking kada.
So another thing that that that I wanted to talk about was again, a lot of this stuff is in there, but. I start to say, like, you know, there's perfect timing hold that thought one second, this is what it's it's at will say this, we don't, we don't plan this. Hang on a second. That we'll get Ramsey here.
We want to talk about this too. And like I said, this is something I can see if I can actually, Yeah, we gotta wait a couple of minutes. We'll play it, maybe do one more last commercial here. We're gonna we'll use this.
We'll use let me get him back on here. I'll message is that. Mm hmmmm. Hang on a second.
Let's see there we go. All right. Like I said, I got multiple things going off through the studios here, let's see all right now some great points. I really hope you guys are enjoying this.
This is and again a disclaimer part is this is just information that's that's coming from where we're coming from, we're sharing from. It doesn't mean it's one hundred percent. You have to take it at face value. You have to do this, you have to do that.
This is just an idea of think about the concept a little bit, challenge yourself, question yourself. Which we're gonna talk with Ramsey to get him his other topic he wanted to cover, which is also in the blog. There and again we're gonna share that information. You can check it out.
We wrap up, we'll give you the links for everything, and then we'll kind of recovery you guys there too. Remember as well, if you are in the local area, we will give you that too, actually, and I'll have it in check us at Impulsemartial Arts dot com. There. We'll say this a couple more times at the end.
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All right, welcome back. Guys, thanks so much for hanging out their apologies. As always, this thing just always seems to cut us off at the worst time. We're getting Ramsey back in here in just a second, trying to time is just right.
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There he comes. And then while he pops in, make sure the volume is good. Whoops, that's too much, too much power there. Yeah, technology is great.
Like I said, there's one day we might we don't use this too much, but we might try to bump that up. So anyway, just to catch you up your eyes if you're just tuning in, welcome, we were talking to our good friend Ramsey Beach from Impulse Martial Arts. We're talking about some good topics here. There was one you got caught off there.
You were gonna say you wanted to cover from the blog, and so go ahead. I'm sorry you got cut off there. No, that's fine. So essentially, Like one of the last points I make was, you know, there's so many catas out there, how do you know which ones are the ones?
And if you don't have all of them, do you have enough to become the best martial artists in that category? That that martial art? And you know, so like if you have if there's a Coda kan karate and they have twenty kadas just saying numbers here, and then you have Shoto kan karate and they have ten different kadas, you know it's one of those. Okay, Well, if I don't have both systems kadas, maybe I should do both systems.
Otherwise I won't be good at karate because they're both karate. Right. If I don't know all the sword kadas that exist, am I am? I?
Am I going to be good? Right? So so that's going to lead that's going to lead you to say, well, you know what, then maybe I should go learn all those kadas. Right.
Well, here's the here's the fun part. You don't have to Okay, you know, yes, they're different, you know sometimes martial arts are different mentalities and stuff, but but realistically, going and learning all the kadas from every martial art will not make you a good martial artist. It just won't. Just won't.
You have to take instruction, you have to learn the martial art. That's what's going to make you a good martial artist, not the individual. So I found out literally recently. I've seen it before, but it's just never like clicked and I in the art of ikdo there are I learned four Joe staff commas.
There's a ninth step, there's a thirteen step, there's a thirty one step, and a thirty five step. I did a whole bunch of research for one from my experience working with other ike doka. The thirteen steps, thirteen steps to it. It's done differently by other martial arts schools.
Okay, so that's one thing. Some of them don't even recognize the ninth step, and most of them don't even recognize the thirty one of the thirty five step. And I'm like, okay, well, where did mind come from? And how do I know I'm doing?
And then then, unbeknown I discovered that there's a twenty two step Joe Katta in the art of aikto that is relatively well known throughout a lot of the akita world. But the question is why didn't I ever get it? Why didn't it get transferred to me? And would I be a better martial artist if I got the twenty to twenty two step on top of that?
Right? Why am I missing out on that twenty two step kata am? My answer no, My answer is no, I'm not missing out on that because anything that that kinda has should have been taught to me by my teacher, right, and if it wasn't, it is what it is. But you know, with all the movements and stuff that there is with a weapon like that, I got a good understanding of it.
I don't think learning the twenty two step caughta today, you know. I mean, I'm rise, I'm very open minded, right, But it's in the book what's it called? Uh the Aikito and the Dynamic Sphere right? Uh?
That that that that book with like the light green cover it. Anyways, Uh, it's in there and I can learn anytime I want, But I don't. I just I don't think it's gonna make me a much better martial artists overall. And if I memorize it and do it perfectly exactly, and then knowing that other marshal other schools are practicing the same cause, but they look completely different.
Well, who's got the right one? Yep? You know, we're taught it at three different ways to three different people, for three different lineages. Which one's right?
That's the problem. So so there's just too much, there's too much stuff that's wrong with them. Practice with my with my mates, and and just just do it real time, real form, and make sure that what I'm doing is good enough, you know, making sure that I can block those punches, making sure I can lift somebody up over my shoulder, making sure I can sweep somebody with the proper ye proper form, proper KOZUTIONI all that k stuff. So yep, yeah, it's the world of KA.
There you go, And you know, I will say this whole experience and again just and I hope you guys will get a chance to go and read it. We're gonna share that link directly for the blog. We're actually gonna we're gonna do some promos here there to kind of wrap things there. First of all, thank you Ramsey for being here.
Appreciate it as always. Uh, we will definitely look forward to another episode again, hope you guys will too, because it seems to be pretty popular when we get these out there, but you can check that out. The blog is there Impulsemartial Arts dot com. Again, if you're in the eastern area, they're in PA, welcome to come out try a class.
Make sure you tell them San CROs Enthy if you heard us talk about it many times, you probably will likely see me there, so you have a chance to meet me in person if you come out there. But definitely some good food for thought. And again, maybe you've been training for quite a long time, maybe you've been considering training. Hopefully this has helped you to skip some of the process to contemplate what you should be looking at.
And we've all been there, We've all had that school search where we're trying to find the right place to go, how to get there, and so forth. Hopefully this helps you to get a head start and a jumpstart on what you want to do there. But and again, the biggest key thing is challenge yourself by asking questions, figuring it out on your own there. Instruction is good.
Always follow your instructors and listen to the guidance there, But as you grow through it, make sure you're not afraid to ask those questions to ensure everything is taught and that you're getting the most out of it, and if there's any confusion, that you don't become stagnant or stale because you were afraid to step up there. So but check it out there Impulsemartial Arts dot com. You can also Ramsey mentioned Gun Tactics, which you have your certification and you can teach classes there. Impulse Tactical.
Is that Impulse dash Tactical. How does that? I forget the website comes. Out, yeah, Impulse hypen Tactical dot com.
So if yes, if you want to do some like talking about the gun training like sort of like the seal training, things like that, how to handle firearms, you can check that out. Classes are available. You can sign up there as well. What are the things we got going?
It is quite a bit going on, I think specific you want to highlight there while we have the audience's here here. I mean essentially, just well, when you're ready to do martial arts, you know, try it out. Almost every school will teach you how to do it. We'll teach you for free, you know, to give that ye, to give that that that trial, so you know what you're getting into.
And then uh, you know coming up if you're in the area, we have great guy Kenny big By Junior coming out and he's one of my tactical instructors from Indiana Navy Seal And let's see, yeah, we get just got a got a bunch of stuff going on. Teacher coming out from Texas. Yep, we got a teacher coming out from Texas and uh that's in October. So lots of opportunities for people, lots of gun courses, lots of self defense courses, lots of stuff you can learn.
If you want to learn it, you can probably teach it to you. And if we don't, and if I don't think it can be talked to you with our school, then we will send you somewhere else. I mean, it's just the way it is. The honest feedback is there, and you won't sugarcoat anybody, and you want to be genuine.
That's a hard thing to find. Most places, they just want you, so they'll tell you anything. So that's uh, they'll they'll talk you into a contract and be done with it and then you can you can you can complain about it later. But yeah, I'm not here, that's that's not how that's not how we work.
No, not here for sure. Yeah, come have a good time learning from stuff and yeah. Relaxed environment, it's nothing stressful. Just come and have a good time.
You get good quality information and you know, it's a great community, a lot of great folks there, so as well as the kids program too. If you have kids that are interested want to train there, you can come out with your kids and you can get some training and your kids can get some training. So there's something for everybody there. Of course, you guys can enjoy that and remember too, we will share on us too.
We have Impulse merchandise there. If you want to get some stuff there, check us out at our link tree that has the official store. Items are available now. There are some discounts that are coming up as well.
Thank you guys though for being here, and again Ramsey, thank you so much. Hope you had a good time. To look forward to meeting again and we will get some a new topic there. We'll dive back into the martial arts world.
But we appreciate you sharing your expertise with us. Ooh, you're welcome anytime, and. Hopefully you guys learned a lot. Hopefully you guys will come back and again, as always, you can reach out to us if you have further questions, We'll be happy to either tell you or we can get you in touch with Ramsey.
If you have direct questions at Impulse there we can. You can also reach out there. I had it pulled out, let me get it up there. You can email Impulsemartial Arts at gmail dot com.
There if you have questions or concerns, or you want to just get general information, we can well, I would say, you don't mind if we share the phone number, but you have it on a personal site that's available for the public anyway, So you can also call four eight four six six four eight eight seven eight and talk to the Sense himself and you can get some other great information if you want a little more personal touch to be able to find out any questions he can answer for you. There. Check it out today, and of course you guys, check this out. We'll be back then Saturday night.
We'll have a brand new show for you guys. Hope you'll tune in for that. Lots more fun coming up the summers winding down, but we have hopefully some other surprises in store we can get out for you. Guys, and then for Ramsey too.
I will see you this week. I'll be there. We'll be back at it and again hopefully we'll see you guys. Come on out and train with us, try it out, have a good time, become part of the family if you want to.
There's no contract necessary. Uh. He will poach you later on and give you the fine print details when you sign up. But that's a whole separate thing.
I'm just just kidding. Your blood you must sign it and you have to stay. Your whole soul is for eternity, so it's not just for there's no sign up there. There's no turning back.
You must hand over the first born. Yeah, and you're in for life, whether you like it or not. If you bring your kids, your whole family is sucked in. You're you're stuck there.
So yeah, yeah, very yeah. Yeah, there's no going back. Make mere exactly. No, we're just kidding.
We think if you love it though, you want toust again because there's great group of people there, So hopefully you'll come and check it out. But hopefully you guys enjoy the rest of your weekend. Take care. We'll see you guys again very soon.
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